I want to be where you are but like many of the others I think it is only a matter of time until he is gone. He won't get fired this year - so Im not counting on that. However, the same in game and personnel mistakes that continue to haunt our team year after year will do him in. Special teams, mental mistakes, over reliance on the passing game - there is something we always stub our toe. I honestly cannot remember the last game where ND was dominant and clean in all facets of the game. That is Brian Kelly for you, sadly. This far into his tenure, it is not as acceptable.
It's year 7. He doesn't deserve any more time. I don't care if we have improved since we fired BVG. Kelly hired BVG and effectively sent 3 and possibly a 4th season up in flames because of it. He's wasted enough of the program's time. We just lost to Navy and Kelly once again did a boneheaded fucking move late in the game by kicking the field goal. It's like the guy has no pulse for the game and reads all of his strategies off of a fucking card coaches made up 20 years ago.
I understand the "we have improved" card, because we have. But the fact Kelly allowed us to drop this far - and the fact that our "improvement" still has us losing to Navy - is pretty inexcusable. Honestly, what do people expect next year? Anything less than 9 wins next year is fireable IMO, and I don't see us coming close to 9 wins after this season. Rest of the season, I see us going 1-2 with Army honesty not being an easy win. If we go 1-2 or worse, I want him gone. He doesn't deserve to be our coach after a 4 win season against one of the easiest schedules we've faced in decades.
Improved? We just lost to a Navy team replacing more starters this year than we did. We have a potential 1st round draft pick at QB who seems like he has been regressing this year. We have a coach who, without fail, has put too much on his QB's shoulders as they become more experienced, effectively "breaking" them every single time. Sure the defensive stats have improved pretty significantly since BVG got canned, but isn't that further evidence against Kelly? He was the last man standing on BVG island. We've played a cupcake schedule and we're 3-6 right now. The team has a lot of young players starting on defense, no doubt, but we've been the more talented team in probably every game we've played so far this season. You keep asking who we could potentially hire, but I honestly believe that Swarbrick is deft enough to make a solid move if he feels that firing Kelly is the right decision. It may not be someone who is even on our radar.
Wasn't the plan at one point to send Chuck Martin to get some HC experience and to replace Kelly. He's won 4 in a row. theregionsitter
That was assuming Kelly wouldn't get fired shortly thereafter. Martin will always be there if we want him. Guy is in love with ND. But he still has quite a bit to prove before he's on our radar.
Only three coaches in the country that are truly worth a shit and could actually win a NC at ND, Saban, Urban and Harbaugh and none of them are coming
This is a big issue for me that I think most people look past. Our schedule is downright dog shit and we are still not going to even make it to .500
You just responded with the exact false logic I was mocking in my previous post. -"Wait until Herman gets ND talent. He'll be even better". -"Tyrone Willingham is coaching up Stanford hacks, he could dominate with ND" -"Brian Kelly is 12-0 at Cincinnati, he should win every game by a million at ND." Coaches don't take the next step here, outside of Kelly's National Championship run. They regress.
Fire Kelly, go after 1. Chris Petersen (wont happen) 2. Kyle Wittingham 3. Tom Herman 4. PJ Fleck Fleck may well be a disaster but at least he'd be an entertaining disaster.
That is honestly the first name that has appeared in the thread that would make me want to keep Kelly
Nice little town. I was in a condo in Bay Harbor. The scenery is great for this time of year. This is the "what we did while ignoring how bad ND is thread", right?
Did Jarron Jones really only have like 10 snaps all game? After last week? Regardless if he's not the right guy against the Navy O, you have to find a way to have playmakers on the field
Irish Illustrated podcast today basically saying Jarron Jones didn't want to play against navy because of chop blocks. How does that even happen. Go on to say that in his few series (12 plays) were the best defensive series.
Podcast basically said Kelly "took a bullet" for him by saying It wasn't Jones cup of tea to defend Navy.
if players feel compelled to make those types of decisions, it's probably a good reason to stop playing Navy every year
I understand it from Jarron's perspective His mom is the one to blame here for tweeting it out and letting the whole world know what happened
I don't know if you know this or not but they did us a favor before most of our fathers were born so you can go cheer for another team buddy.
Miami has won 4 in a row. Chuck is putting a solid team together. How pumped are you to see the Redhawks take down ND in South Bend to open next year? That will be the nail in the coffin for BK
The whole Jarron Jones situation is odd. I do agree that if guys are starting to make decisions like this due to the fact they fear injury, then ND needs to reconsider their commitment to continue playing Navy. Our debt has been long paid, in both dollars and season ending injuries.
And it's not a good look for jones. NFL teams won't like this kind of attitude one bit. I would love to be in the room when they interview him and ask about it. I would also asked him the question like this"why are you scared of 260 pounds linemen trying to cut block you? You know we cut block in the NFL too but 260 pounds linemen are pretty rare"
If I remember Nix or someone did similar, they played it off as he didn't fit for the game but it came out he and they were concerned that he would get hurt and he was already nicked up so he couldn't defend himself as well. May have been Tuitt, I don't remember.
They all hate it and I get it but sitting out just looks bad. So now he won't play more than 12 plays against army too?
They mention Nix in the podcast. It's a tough argument since Jarron Jones played 2 years ago against them. And how do you justify playing Tillery. Expect the II guys to ask about it in Kelly's press conference today.
Long story short. thanks for your service, but fuck you little knee biting gnats. They were even targeting knees tackling right and left. I was infuriated.
If Jones had issues playing in that game at nose, they should have taken him off the inside technique and let him play wide. When you play that inside against Navy the cut blocks are coming from all angles. Should have just let him play an outside technique and dominate a OT all game.
I'm starting to think there might have been some movement inside the Gug. The II staff are now openly speculating about potential hires, which they said they wouldn't do two weeks ago, and O'Malley is on the record predicting Kelly won't be the coach next year.
Dream Scenario: Throw 10m at Urban, tell him he can have everything he wants until the BOT threatens to shut it down. Retain Sanford. Dedicate the new dorm they are about to build to athletes and join the big time. fuck it. Sell your soul.