I wonder if they’re not allowed to say the word “Silmaril” because they’ve alluded to them a few times, talking about Feonor and Elrond’s father being a star now, but I don’t think they’ve specifically said Silmaril yet. Also gives backstory to why Elves and Dwarves don’t like each other.
Seems like a flashback would have to be incredibly vague considering the rights issue. But it being Durin’s bane would be weird as fuck.
Silmaril - three of them, gems made by Feanor that encased the light of the two trees of Valinor. Acclaimed as the most beautiful creation ever, god-level work, and stolen by Morgoth, the fallen Valar, ultimate villain in Tolkien world In this last ep, Elrond monologues about his dad, Earendil. He was half man, half elf and a son of the hidden city of Gondolin. One of few to ever successfully sail back to Valinor and petitioned the good Valar to intercede and help finally defeat Morgoth. Killed the greatest of Morgoths dragons and now rides the heavens with one of the three Silmarils, essentially a star at this point.
In terms of the elves and dwarves, one of the elven kings hired some dwarves to set one of the Silmarils into his crown. The dwarves decided they wanted to keep it and murdered the king, whose people in turn murdered the dwarves. At this point, the three Silmarils are pretty much permanently out of reach, with one being in the sky with Earendil, and the other two thrown into the sea and a volcano by the last surviving sons of Feonor after they realized they’d become too corrupted to hold them. So you have one in the air, one in the water, and one in the earth, and eventually they’ll be reunited at the end of the world.
always imagined that after ME's greatest heroes all sailed West that at some point in the distant future someone, probably a Dwarf, fucks up and awakens another Balrog except now there's nobody skilled enough to help and it just rampages across ME in an unstoppable fury.
Who else remembers the made for TV Hobbit movie from the 70s? I watched that VHS till it went bad. I remember the orcs had some banger war marches.
I never watched any of the others, my older brother swears he tried to play them and I’d refuse and only watch The Hobbit. My 5 year old reasoning “Frodo is a little bitch compared to Bilbo.”
I bought the 75th or maybe it was the 50th anniversary edition of LotR years ago. It's a pretty nice looking book.
Man, jealous of a lot of those. I have no clue where the paperback versions of Hobbit, LotR, Silmarillion are anymore. Had really nice hard back copies of the trilogy and Silmarillion as well and no clue where they are either. Have this recent print of the Hobbit that we do bed time readings of though, it’s cool: Spoiler
Not my favorite episode. The fight training stuff with Galadriel made me roll my eyes a few times and the song bit with the harfoots was not my thing. They also need to chill with the slo mo. Also...
This was the exact copy I read in 4th grade after my parents divorced and my dad moved to Seattle. Sitting in the back of class being an asshole, saw this cover and started reading.
Agree with all this. The harfoots story is painfully slow television. And I thought we were done with Numenor after last episode. The idea of ~50 humans and an elf "making a stand" at that watchtower is beyond dumb and hopefully IF they are able to make some kind of a stand it's because an actual army shows up to help them (which I don't see possible since they dicked around in Numenor instead of leaving when they said) and not because a bunch of farmers "fought an inspired fight against evil because they love their lands" or some feel good shit that's not believable in the least bit. The elves and Durin interactions were the only good parts of the episode
Could be. I think they're still in the general area of what will eventually be Mordor and the Dead Marshes are right outside
That line from Isildur’s friend to him about finding something he’s not willing to sacrifice anything for was poignant foreshadowing
I love LOTR but I’m like 2/10 nerd level in here I love the story but just don’t think it’s very good so far.
It's really not. It's taking forever for anything to happen. So little has actually happened in 5 episodes it's kind of amazing.
Geesh, look at all these marvel fanboys that just want pew pew and fighting and explosions all episode every episode. Sorry this show is actually giving us story and meaning to the characters actions.
the characters are stiff as a board and the show moves like a snail. Sorry if that offends you but it’s the truth
The writing is such a rung below Tolkien it feels like an insult to even compare the two. That said I'm obviously still watching for a reason but this last episode was just not that good. I hope it gets better but who knows.
I do agree the pacing feels like a Tolkien book. But the characters are so bland currently. There isn't a single character I find myself gravitating towards so far. The world and lore is cool as hell though.
The dialogue between Elrond and Gil-Galad was weird as fuck. Why does Elrond need to say, “yes, they found mithril” instead of “this is literally the only thing I can’t tell you.”
I don’t know, I’m usually the petty bitch when it comes to these type of things but I’m loving RoP, they’re not batting 1.000 but it’s really damn good.
Honestly I don’t get this criticism. This is a marathon and not a sprint and it is also not game of thrones. When things happen, I would much rather be vested in the characters and their motivation. I felt Wheel of Time was too rushed and skipped over some of these steps.
But that's the thing I later pointed out. So far they haven't got me invested in any of these characters. I just don't feel like any of them are particularly well written. I don't know. I just found this last episode to be particularly bad. Just felt like a mostly filler episode and that sword training scene was so damn dumb I can't forgive it.
Strange because I really enjoyed it. I feel it is very immersive and yes the characters have a somewhat cartoonish feel to them, but there are definitely characters I am interested in all of the main heroic characters they have featured on some level. I typically don't like the dwarves, but Durin is great, IMO. I certainly understand if you aren't invested int he characters, but I think some are just looking for an action show, and I am pretty sure we will get that. Frankly I am not a huge fan of the battles for battle sake.
I actually don't care about the action at all. My favorite shows ever were the Wire and Mad Men which had zero action. It just isn't resonating with me so far. But it just has such huge shoes to fill so maybe that's it. I don't know.