Cincinnati zoo kills gorilla to save child who slipped into enclosure

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  1. Goose

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    The over the top Christian shaming is one of the most cringe worthy things on this board
     
  2. pennstate2012

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    The news stories I have seen have omitted placing any blame on the parents. I'm not saying to hold a kangaroo court, but somebody should ask the question how a 4 year old was left unattended to crawl through a fence to drop 10 feet. :twocents:
     
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  3. spagett

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    And this is the only time they care about grammar.
     
  4. Lemmy Caution

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  5. Whammy Business

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    Hey, man, I worked at a newspaper and copyedited stuff.
     
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  7. Petito

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    if anyone was wondering, the narrative on this from thecoli is that white ppl are defending the gorilla because the kid was black
     
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    Has any more info come out about:

    1. How long the kid was unattended.

    2. How the kid got in.
     
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    I would encourage more Jew & Muslim shaming but I don't think we have the numbers.
     
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  10. Whammy Business

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    Regardless of the motivation, engaging in some competitive mourning over the death of an animal is quintessentially white.
     
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    And who is in control of the numbers?

    :jew:
     
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    Grief tourism is an industry at this point
     
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    Apparently the mom was busy taking selfies when the kid fell in although I haven't seen any confirmation on that
     
  14. Koby Salman

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    Wherever you heard this information I would take it with a grain of assault.
     
  15. Hail Southern

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    This was such a white kid thing to have happened, I'm honestly surprised it was a black kid. It's like when there is a mass shooter on a campus, we all know it's probably a white guy.
     
  16. Artoo

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    Have you ever spent 15 minutes in the vicinity of a 4 year old? It only takes them seconds to get into situations like this. You're paying attention to them one second, then you go and tie your shoes and they have scaled a fence, or some other shit.
     
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  17. Goose

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    Book you stay at Cincinnati U-S-A.......DOT COM!!!!!

    Yes that's a commercial
     
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    Mexican I would have believed. They are the worst behaved children on earth because their parents are the shittiest parents on earth... Black kids don't fuck around when their mothers or grandmothers are around, it was a shock.
     
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    Sounds like a great activity for the next Jim's Day Off.

    :Insertwhistlesoundhere:
     
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    HARAMBE

    Cincinnati Zoo Could Face Criminal Charges Over Gorilla Death
    By VICE News

    May 31, 2016 | 12:20 pm
    The Cincinnati Zoo's decision to kill a 17-year-old critically endangered gorilla after a four-year-old boy fell into the animal's habitat has sparked a backlash from animal rights activists, anti-zoo groups, and people who accuse the boy's mother of bad parenting. It could also result in criminal charges.

    The incident occurred on Saturday afternoon, when the four-year-old boy managed to breach the zoo exhibit's barrier and fell into the concrete moat surrounding "Gorilla World." A 450-pound, 17-year-old gorilla named Harambe went to the boy and, at times, seemed to be trying to protect him as onlookers screamed from above — but he also repeatedly drags the boy through the water at high speed. The Cincinnati Fire Department said in a press release on Saturday that the gorilla was "violently dragging and throwing the child."

    The gorilla later climbed up a ladder with the boy to the main level of the gorilla habitat, where, about ten minutes after the boy entered the enclosure, a zookeeper fatally shot Harambe. The boy was transported to the hospital and was released that night. He is now recovering at home, his family said.

    A Hamilton County prosecutor's office said on Tuesday that the incident is currently under police investigation. Once the investigation is finished, they will determine if the the person responsible for the gorilla enclosure can be held criminally liable.

    Animal welfare activists have since organized vigils for Harambe, placing flowers and cards at the entrance of the zoo and inside the zoo, at the feet of a statue near Gorilla World.









    One online petition called "Justice for Harambe" now has more than 300,000 signatures and calls on child protection services and law enforcement to investigate the boy's mother for negligence.

    "This beautiful gorilla lost his life because the boy's parents did not keep a closer watch on the child," the petition says. "It is believed that the situation was caused by parental negligence and the zoo is not responsible for the child's injuries and possible trauma."

    According to the New York Times, Cincinnati police have no plans to investigate the boy's parents.

    Related: Video: Zookeepers Killed a Critically Endangered Gorilla After He Grabbed a Four-Year Old at the Zoo

    The boy's mother, Michelle Gregg, has withstood a barrage of social media abuse. After posting a public statement on her Facebook extending her "heartfelt thanks for the quick action by the Cincinnati Zoo staff."

    "We know that this was a very difficult decision for them, and that they are grieving the loss of their gorilla," the message said.

    She has since deactivated her Facebook account after it was overrun by angry trolls. The online assault grew so vitriolic that a man who says his name is Kevin took it upon himself to set up a Facebook page called "I Support Michelle Gregg," which so far has attracted nearly 450 followers.

    Some say the zoo is at fault for what happened. One group has lodged an official complaint with the US Department of Agriculture saying the Cincinnati Zoo is responsible for the gorilla's death by failing to provide adequate safety barriers between people and animals. In a press conference on Tuesday, a spokesperson from Stop Animal Exploitation Now (SAEN) said that the zoo "violated several parts of the animal welfare act" by failing to construct "adequate physical barriers."

    "The public needs to understand what they're supporting when they go to facilities like this" he added. "They're not designed to be in the best interests of the animals. They are designed for people to look at animals."

    Related: Experimenting on Animals: Inside the Monkey Lab

    The non-profit watchdog group has filed a complaint with the USDA containing its alleged violations, and claim the zoo has been cited twice recently for safety and enclosure issues.

    Another group, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA), said the zoo's enclosure was not sufficient to keep animals and people separated, and that it should have had a "secondary barrier."

    "This tragedy is exactly why PETA urges families to stay away from any facility that displays animals as sideshows for humans to gawk at," said primatologist Julia Gallucci, said in the statement.

    In March, two Cincinnati Zoo polar bears, named "Little One" and "Berit", tried to escape from their containment area after zookeepers left a pen door open. Because of the double-security system in the polar bear exhibit, they weren't able to breach a second set of doors which would lead to the public spectator area. The zoo director assured the public in a statement that no bears or zookeepers were injured in the incident.

    With the dust still refusing to settle from Saturday's incident, the Cincinnati Zoo released a second statement on Sunday explaining in more detail what exactly happened: After being notified that a boy had fallen into the moat, zookeepers immediately called the gorillas out of the exhibit.

    "The two females complied, but Harambe did not," the statement said, adding that "with the child still in the exhibit, tranquilizing the 450-pound gorilla was not an option. Tranquilizers do not take effect for several minutes and the child was in imminent danger. On top of that, the impact from the dart could agitate the animal and cause the situation to get much worse."

    The follow-up statement didn't do enough to mollify public concern.

    To counter the anger at Harambe's death, the zoo on Monday held a press conference to defend its actions.

    Cincinnati Zoo Director Thane Maynard described the incident as "unprecedented" in the zoo's history. "We have never had to kill a dangerous animal in the middle of an emergency situation," Maynard told reporters. "We've been here 143 years so that's saying a lot."

    Related: Polar Bears Are Now Eating Dolphins in the Arctic

    Hitting back at what he described as the "Monday morning quarterbacks or second guessers" Maynard explained further why "you can't take a risk with a silverback gorilla" and why Harambe might have been alarmed by the presence of a four-year old in his enclosure.

    "I've seen this animal with one hand, take a coconut and crunch it," he said. "He was disorientated. He never had anything like that going on before."

    Maynard also insists that safety at the zoo is his top priority. "The exhibit is safe and the barrier is safe. That said, any of us in this room could climb over barriers if we choose."

    The loss of Harambe will likely affect the other gorillas in his group. Western Lowland gorillas live in the smallest family structure of any gorilla group — normally four to eight animals. They are very intelligent — according to the National Geographic, some in captivity have even learned simple human sign language.

    The Cincinnati Zoo celebrated Harambe's 17th birthday last Friday with a Tweet.





    Harambe was born at the Gladys Porter Zoo in Brownsville, Texas, and was moved to the Cincinnati Zoo in 2014. Western lowland gorillas are classified as a critically endangered species, and Maynard said the zoo had hoped to use Harambe for breeding. Animal conservation groups estimate that there are only around 125,000 left in the wild in Cameroon, Central African Republic, Congo, Equatorial Guinea, Gabon, Angola, and the Democratic Republic of Congo.

    TOPICS: harambe, silverback gorilla, animal welfare, cincinnati zoo, ohio, #justiceforharambe, zoos, endangered species, wildlife, environment, americas
     
  21. Professor Moriarty

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    At the zoo or Disney, should never take your eyes off of a toddler in an overly crowded place. They can vanish like magicians. I'm on kid #3, 2 boys ages 9 and 7 and a baby girl. You can't fuck around with them in places like this. Got to tie your shoe, put them in their stroller or sit them next to you. Communicate with other adults with you. Straight up negligence.
     
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  22. Can I Spliff it

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    The worst thing about this whole story is that after it happened, everyone on social media turned into an expert parent, zoologist, sniper, and public relations representative... completely overshadowing Memorial Day and the reasons we observe it.
    Fuck gorillas and fuck people.
     
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  24. jaygabriel

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    But man, that selfie with the gorillas in the background tho! As Jalen Rose would say that shit was tite.
     
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    I wonder how old that cheetah was.
    I wonder if it was the same one Billy Bates beat in the 100-yard dash in "Wire to Wire - The 1990 Cincinnati Reds"

     
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  26. RoyalShocker

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    tyte
     
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  27. Bruce Wayne

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    Cool it with the casual racism man.
     
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  28. EdNigma

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    This is stupid. Unless there is a history of the parents neglecting the kid this is a witch hunt. Every parent, no matter how intense they watch their kids, has had an "oh shit" moment and had to look around for their kid. I don't know what the enclosure looked like it if it was up to snuff but these things happen at zoo's every year. Parents aren't without blame, but criminal charges? I'm not sure I buy that.
     
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    More like not-so casual beastialty.
     
  30. $P1

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    I just want to see what the kid had to do to fall down before I make an official ruling.
     
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  31. mjkstl

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    Media needs to get Cecil the lion to speak out .
     
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  32. CraigAnne Conway

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    The fact that this infuriates you this much makes you a cunt of an even higher order.
    Get a life, man.
     
  33. MajorRaider

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    Criminal charges seem like a ridiculous overreaction.
     
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    "Animal rights groups" is all the further I needed to read that article.
     
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    That ape had a higher IQ and emotional acumen than a lot of humans.
     
  36. mointegra90

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    I hate zoos. They are just sad to me. I don't enjoy looking at enclosed animals that are meant for the wild. It's just depressing.
     
  37. RoyalShocker

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    Bums me out too when I see animals that usually end their lives being torn to shreds by cats and dogs or starving to death have the opportunity to live a more pampered and fantastic life than my own pampered life.
     
  38. eHo

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    The article makes no mention of potential criminal charges and even says that the police aren't planning on investigating. Shitty article headline.
     
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  39. RoyalShocker

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    Bud, if you think your child ending up in a god damn gorilla enclosure is an excusable lapse in parenting, then I really don't even know how to respond to that.

    This isn't your kid getting 20 feet away from you.
     
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  40. mointegra90

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    What makes it so fantastic? Please explain.
     
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    The boy was black, correct?
     
  42. MajorRaider

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    Almost all the animals (around 98%) in today's Zoos are comprised of animals born in captivity, they live much longer than animals in the wild, accredited zoos probably donate more time and money to conservation than any other group out there (they do far more than PETA ever has) and they provide an opportunity to educate young people on why it's important to give a shit about the animals in the first place.

    They're actually a great thing.
     
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  43. Petito

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    Correct
     
  44. eHo

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    That's a weird way to phrase it. They lost track of their child for a short period of time. I'm guessing many parents have done the same. Thankfully, the consequences aren't usually this awful.
     
  45. Arkadin

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    Everyone has their moments, but it's what your moment causes. You don't get prosecuted for being distracted while driving, but you would if you were distracted and ran over someone's gorilla
     
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  47. allothersnsused

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    Have we considered the fact that the reason gorillas are endangered is because they keep luring our stupid kids near them, forcing us to shoot them.
     
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    Yet.

    I've since forwarded this post to your local law enforcement and the FBI. Good luck getting away with it now, criminal scum!
     
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  49. eHo

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    Personally, I think they absolutely deserve some of the blame for the incident.

    I don't think this necessarily means they're bad parents or bad people, so I have some compassion for them.
     
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  50. MajorRaider

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    Everybody knows that Gorillas are the number one buyers of "Free Candy" vans.