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I think both WV and CAWS both did tremendous justice and storytelling for all of the title characters and even the other side characters like Agatha/Darcy/Monica and Zemo/Karly/Walker/Val/Sharon/Isaiah

 

I must have missed episode 5.5 that brought him back to neutral.

 

Im interested in him as a character but not sure “like” is the right word.

 

Exactly. Like I’m most interested to see how he interfaces and gets used by JLD. His character growth for me will always be dependent upon those around him.

 

Walker straight up lied to Lemar's parents' face about who killed their son then that topic is never brought up again and we end the season with his strutting all over the place with a "I'm back!" and we're suppose to like him?

lmao

 

I’ve only watched the episodes once but is that true? I thought he said it was a “terrorist” which is exactly how he viewed them.

 

Same as you, one watch through, but I thought he told them it was Karli specifically.

 

he told them the guy he killed was the person who killed Lemar.

 

I think the interesting thing about his character is that he really thinks he is the good guy, but doesn't realize that what he's been taught as "good" is just so misguided that he is nothing of the sort. He shows that he wants to be the good guy when he opts to try to save the truck in the finale. JLD is going to corrupt him even further exploiting his misguided notions of right and wrong.

 

I just finished a rewatch with the wife and caught the “you built me” line from his show trial, which resonated quite a bit

 

If they wanted us to like Walker, they failed miserably to the point where I just don't believe it's true. At no point during the first 5 episodes did I think they wanted me to believe he was anything more than an arrogant prick who didn't deserve the role he was chosen for. I'll buy that they wanted him to redeem himself in the finale and that maybe they hoped we were happy to see it, but that's it.

If they actually wanted to like Walker the entire time, that explains a lot about some of the issues the show had.

 

I wonder if all he meant was in reference to Walker trying to be the hero and rescue the car midway through the last episode. It was a "redeeming" moment, where you thought he might at least go out a hero, or maybe even do a complete face-turn.

I don't know any way to watch his final scene ("I'm back!") and not conclude he's a villain. He's not a "I'm bad and I know it" kind of bad guy; he's more of a villain too stupid to to know he's being manipulated by Lady Hydra.

 

man I didn’t know that

 

Well who knows if that's the character she's playing. I'm sure she'll be something reminiscent, without being a direct translation

 

She's not lady hydra

 

I thought she was S.H.I.E.L.D. and known as Nick Fury's love interest but I only read her wiki.

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she also was a Skrull at one point

 

I think she definitely will play a role in Secret Wars

 

First off, it's Madame Hydra, you fucking heathens.

Second, I like the idea of turning Sharon into Madame Hydra.

 

if you're looking to pass some time reading some delicious outrage about this show, i direct you to:

https://forums.rivals.com/threads/m...r-soldier-show-is-a-national-disgrace.998472/

 

Outing yourself again. Can't read their boards if you don't have a Rivals account.

 

joke's on you, i use rv12 's account

 

You mean our account to make fun of your brother? Corch uses it more than we do.

 

Lol I've been on there twice

 

Couldn't you guys just post some screen shots of the lowlights?

 

So if Peggy and Howard were heavily involved in the founding of Shield, and apparently Howard had some level of SSS with him when he was killed, they probably new about Bradley, right?

 

he said it was a nurse.

 

The identity of that nurse?

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