Gonna try this: http://www.myshuti.com/how-shuti-works/ Seems to be the best and most reviewed cbt-i program on the market.
Any small, simple cpap type device worth a shit that I can just buy without having to do the whole Dr./sleep study thing?
Huh? By getting too much air? Sorry if I sound ignorant...I probably have sleep apnea but not bad I don't think. If there's something simple/easy that would maybe help, I'd give it a shot.
Sleep apnea is not something you should be trying to take shortcuts with... If you can't afford the testing or the equipment if you do in fact have sleep apnea, start up a GoFundMe campaign.
basically, a cpap is set to a certain pressure depending on readings taken during sleep studies the way my doctor explained it to me was that if the pressure is too high, provides too much air, your body might learn to not even try to take a breath on its own which will leave you dead
Yeah I shouldn't drink or chew or smoke a cigar either but.... Its not a problem of affording it. Was simply curious if anyone knew of a good over the counter type solution. I've read a couple pages of this thread and I don't have near the problems most have posted about. I just snore some and have to wake up to piss sometimes. No problems with energy or feeling bad throughout the day.
Same here. I downloaded one of those sleep tracking apps this summer to record my snoring. Holy crap it was bad. Makes me wonder if I should get tested for sleep apnea. But then I look at the estimated cost tool on my insurance website and it says I'll end up having to pay well over $500 to do a sleep study so nope not doing that. My insurance plan pretty shitty for sleep studies.
Had no idea it could cost that much. My yearly deductible is just $700 so I doubt it would cost me that much but even so that's a better reason for potentially finding something decent over the counter.
Yes in the 50-mile radius around here, it seems like all the non-hospital sleep study places charge over $1000, my insurance would cover approximately 35-40% of it. Do it at a hospital and it's like $2K+ before insurance.
That makes me so happy that the VA issued me a CPAP 1.5 years before I had my sleep study done. In their defense apparently some machines auto adjust the pressure when you use them.
@1 you should get one done. Apparently there are a lot of sleep disorders other than sleep apnea that they monitor for. They look for teeth grinding, some kind deal with kicking your legs around, etc.
My sleep study was around $1,100, but I was also sent a check for about $350 a month after the study. Didn't question it, just cashed it in.
So every time I go see the Dr at the VA for my adderall, or for any other reason they send a bill to my work insurance. That insurance pays their cut and whatever they don't pay is technically what I "pay". That amount is then mostly covered by the VA. So I met my deductible and about 95% of my out of pocket maximum for my work insurance about 6 months into the year.
For anyone looking for a review, it has helped me so far. There isn't a whole lot of groundbreaking info, but it's given me a sleep restriction schedule that results in me sleeping through the night about half the time (where it was none of the time before).
If the cost of a sleep study is the main concern, try to find a dentist around you that does a lot of sleep apnea treatment. Some can do home sleep studies where you are sent home with some monitors and sleep in your own bed. They are much cheaper than a lab study and medical insurances are more frequently accepting these for diagnosis of apnea instead of lab sleep studies. In my office, we charge a patient $300 cash for a home sleep study including having a certified sleep doctor read and diagnose the results. With the exception of medicare/medicaid, most medical insurances we deal with will pay for a CPAP or oral appliance based off one of these studies.
Had a consult last week. Sleep doc asked a lot of questions, decided somewhere along the way not to say YOU HAVE TO DO THIS TEST OR YOU WILL DIE SOON and instead went on a long spiel to sell me the test that he seemed to think I might need but probably not. I felt like he was trying to sell me a fucking timeshare. $850 for the take-home test, $2900 for the in-office all-nighter. Take-home is decent for detecting moderate or bad apnea, but it frequently misses mild apnea, or so he said, so he'd recommend the in-office test if I wanted to do it (implication is that I have mild apnea if at all). I asked him if there was any reason for me not to go directly to a dentist and get a mouthpiece made for me, and he said dental insurance wouldn't cover it unless I had the sleep study first. I said we don't have dental insurance because it's a scam for small businesses, so there really is no reason not to go directly to a dentist if I'm paying out of pocket and having the company reimburse me anyway. He didn't have an answer for that, so that's about where we ended the consult. I came away with the distinct impression that it was just another way for Palo Alto Medical Foundation to get its hands as deep in my pockets and soak my insurance as much as possible.
If you're paying out of pocket it may not matter to you but dental appliances are billed/covered by medical insurance, not dental insurance. He was correct though in that medical insurance will not cover one without a sleep study. You're likely get a discount for cash pay since you're saving the dentist the bullshit of filing all the medical paperwork.
Got the results of my sleep study. Apparently I stop breathing approximately 47 times an hour. I guess that's not good.
I give up. I gotta give a prescription drug a shot. I've avoided it because I respond weird to most all of them. Not even saying this as a joke...muscle relaxers give me crazy hard-on's....i dunno. I don't want to feel groggy the next day..i'd rather just not sleep. Any suggestions on what to avoid before I go to the doctor on Monday? Yeah i'm supposed to be waking up in 5 hours. FML.
Just make sure you can accurately communicate what it's like when you can't sleep. My problem was that I'd get anxious about things or even anxious about the prospect of not sleeping and I couldn't shut my brain off. Got a script for trazodone which I take maybe once a week and it's been super helpful.
Yeah that perfectly describes it. A few nights ago it was so bad that I felt like my skin was crawling and I kept going from sweating to freezing every few minutes.
I take Trazadone most nights and when my anxiety really starts to kick in, I throw a little Xanax in the mix.
Lucky if I can get to sleep before 1 am these days. THen when I do, I end up waking up several times throughout the night. A pretty rare occurrence when I can say I had a good night's sleep anymore.
Did a sleep study on Sunday night in a lab, so should find out by the end of next week what the verdict is
Sort of related: If any of you snore bad, it's more likely than not that you have sleep apnea (which would explain why a lot of you are waking up a lot during the night). This summer, we were on vacation with friends and a buddy of mine passed out on the couch and started snoring worse than I had ever heard anyone snore. We laughed about it, thinking nothing of it. Two weeks later he died in his sleep from it. He was 34 and not at all overweight. He left a wife and two little girls behind. It freaked my wife out, so I went and bought one of those mouthpieces that pulls the lower jaw forward to clear up your airway. It's a pain in the ass to sleep with, but I've slept a lot better with it. I would recommend it. On a lighter note, I am the biggest diva when it comes to sleep. I have to have my sound machine, mouth piece, body pillow, cushioned sleep mask, meds within arms reach, and the temp. at 65 degrees (I'd go cooler but my wife would leave me). Without any of those items, I may as well be camping in a swamp.
I've snored a lot most of my life. The whole waking up a lot in the middle of the night is fairly recent though, within the last year I would estimate. What brand of mouthpiece did you buy and where did you buy it?
PureSleep. https://puresleep.com/s30/homepage.php It's OTC, and you could get better ones from your dentist; however, it's done the trick. My wife says I barely snore with it in.
I still sleep walk and talk pretty frequently. Occasionally, I will wake up out of bed standing by the door. I snap out of it after a couple seconds and realize what is going on. When I was little, I used to see a little boy standing at the end of my bed, with sort of a bluish hue and shaggy blonde hair. Can still picture him to this day. Also, used to see a mom, dad, son and daughter taking a family portrait on the chair down the hallway in the family room. My bed faced the hallway and I could see down it. They would all look over at me at the same time, and I would put my head under my covers. Very creepy.
My research indicates that with some of these types of products, jaw soreness can happen when you start using it but eventually will go away after your jaw gets used to using it.
You get two with the purchase (in case you lose one or fuck it up when doing the molding). I've been using it for about 6 months, but I probably only remember to wear it about 3-4 nights/week. You could also check with your dentist about whether they offer an anti-snoring mouthpiece If so, they would create it from a professional mold, and it would presumably be higher quality. If done professionally, your insurance company may cover it. It's expensive, but it's a cheaper option than a cpap and it's much more convenient to use and travel with, and doesn't require a sleep study to obtain it.
Think I am going to try out a pulse oximeter that will record my blood oxygen level throughout the night. My insurance website says a sleep study is going to cost me over $700 out of pocket. This peer-reviewed study from the BMC Pulmonary Medicine journal says "Overnight pulse oximetry provides satisfactory diagnostic performance in detecting severe OSA [obstructive sleep apnea] patients. Home-styled oximetry may be a tool for severe OSA diagnosis."
Looks like this will be the oximeter I will get. It's kinda hard to find ones that will record overnight. Downside is it the software only works with Windows so I'll have to boot up Parallels to view the results
I've slept 10 hours in the last 4 1/2 days, and currently ONE hour in the past 30 hours...and I'm on vacation and just drove 13 of 15 hours to Florida, hit the beach, unpacked, hit Publix, and am going back to the beach tonight with no signs of slowing down. I'm literally gonna die. And no I don't do drugs, it's close to 20 years since I even touched weed.
I was put on Trazadone. It worked for a month and then suddenly stopped working. I tried gambling with 1 1/2 pills (15 megahertz???....I don't even know what dosages are I don't touch meds.
Still waking up every night. Have an appointment on Monday. Anyone try doxepin/silenor? That apparently helps and osnis addictive, so that's the next attempt. Wish lunesta could be used long term.