Cutting the Cable

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  1. bic

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    It's "experimental" right now so that's probably a safeguard for morons who will enable it then have buffering issues (lower live latency means less room for buffer) and not understand why. With a ~26 second standard latency, my buffer health sits between 15-20 seconds. Since reduced live latency is less than that already, my buffer health with it enabled is only about 5 seconds. So people with spotty internet (I have some friends who already bitch about Youtube TV buffering all the time and I'm just like... sorry your internet is bad) are likely to run into a lot more buffering with that setting enabled.
     
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  2. Det. Frank Bullitt

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    Yeah, if they get some remotely positive metrics from this, I bet they make it a permanent setting.

    I'm gigbit wired at home so my streams are always 'healthy'.

    It seems I jumped about 7-10 seconds forward using the setting, which incidentally matched the exact second of the livescore website I use for soccer on yesterday's matches.
     
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  3. NP13

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    gonna need multiview for bball too, YTTV
     
  4. The Hebrew Husker

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    I believe they had one the other day. Just one option with 4 games.
     
  5. NP13

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    today is the first day i haven't seen one.
     
  6. snowfx2

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  7. Bankz

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    So if you have a Paramount + account you now got Showtime for free? Is that what's happened?
     
  8. Truman

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    Seems like it. Although ‘for free’ probably means a rate increase shortly
     
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  9. dump

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    because no one cares about Showtime once the A24/Max deal was announced
     
  10. 1

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    One thing Showtime has is Californication. Great show...very re-watchable
     
  11. Det. Frank Bullitt

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    Crazy how these companies just completely discard their brands.
     
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  12. Jimmy the Saint

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    The reduced broadcast delay has worked nicely for me so far. Very little buffering. During MNF it was running like a second or two behind my antenna. A little slower today but still much better than the typical streaming delay.
     
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  13. Det. Frank Bullitt

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    anecdotal: the espn gamecast for tonights SNF is roughly one play ahead of the 'decreased delay' or w/e its called.

    Stats for nerds says i have 18 seconds of latency iyam

    edit: turned decreased delay off and SFN days 23 seconds of latency.

    sounds like is a reasonable assumption that decreased delay in good conditions can be easily a 5 second improvement.
     
  14. Goose

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    Is FOX or the B1G going to come up with a way to stream games on FOX networks?

    Seems like the sports programming of the future is:

    Max: Looks like they're airing any game on TNT/TBS. Plus they do some soccer stuff. I'm curious if they'll stream March Madness?

    ESPN+: Assuming they allow all games to be on the app

    Peacock: EPL if you're into that plus they do some B1G stuff

    Paramount: A lot of soccer plus I'd imagine some B1G stuff will be on here

    I already have Max, HBO, and Peacock. Wouldn't mind shedding YTTV to pickup Paramount+ and some sort of FOX sports streaming app. Just please don't make me partially cover FOX News

    Could just get Sunday Ticket and MLB on top of this (assuming MLB start allowing local games to be aired). I saw League Pass is also going for only $50.
     
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  15. bigred77

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    I think you are already there
    Espn and espn + are kept two totally separate things
    As far as I can tell, you have to have a subscription to espn+ for its content and you have to have a separate subscription to pretty much any 'cable like' provider to get espn

    Like a friend can't currently watch the 30 for 30 on reggie white because he doesn't have cable service, but he pays for espn+.
    It's so dumb
     
  16. FresnoGator

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    Already been happening. Last season of Billions was shown on P+, along with other Showtime programming ...
     
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    I don't really get your question or issue but sporting events that are aired on Fox, FS1, FS2, B1G Network. Are also aired/available on the Fox Sports app.

    B1G+ is it's own app or service apart from everything else. That's for basically all of the other sports that don't make it on BTN
     
  18. Goose

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    Does the FOX Sports app fill these two basic requirements

    1) not being a massive piece of shit that doesn’t work consistently

    2) can I view its content without having a cable service tied to it?
     
  19. Jimmy the Saint

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    No, you have to have a provider log in.
     
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    1) I don't use it consistently but when I have, I've never had a problem.

    2) You can view highlights and shit like that without one but like ESPN you need a provider login for any of their live TV channels.
     
  21. Goose

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    Then there isn’t a fox app
     
  22. laxjoe

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    Fox has made a point of not having a standalone streamer. Not sure if they will stay that way or not but they’re the one that hasn’t spent billions on a streamer
     
  23. Det. Frank Bullitt

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    No, Fox grabbed TUBI, one of the best, if not only true free streaming apps, which is like world tallest midget, etc.

    For instance for the last world cup, replays were on Tubi in 4k, for free, via ads, technically.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tubi
     
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  24. Det. Frank Bullitt

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    1) I have problems with it occassionally on tv apps, fwiw. web is better.
    2) It will often say "you have a 30 minute preview" or something similar where it will play, but at the end, show you the login screen to validate your providers (e.g. cable or internet, satellite, or even dorm room) access to these channels.
     
  25. laxjoe

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    Sorry, meant that they haven’t tried to launch their brand new/branded streaming service that includes DTC sports. Tubi is great
     
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  26. snowfx2

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  27. Fran Tarkenton

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    wish these leagues would pool all their local rights and put it on one streaming service behind a paywall

    then sublicense out a nominal % of games to a local channel that has a desire for the inventory
     
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  28. DeToxRox

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  29. Jimmy the Saint

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    Paramount+? Paramount MAX
     
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  31. Det. Frank Bullitt

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    I've posted this multiple times before - just happened again. Chase, Amex and BoA, never seems to disappear.

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  32. theregionsitter

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    The media companies are buried in debt and subscriptions are decling/stagnant/etc

    Mergers are coming to reduce debt
     
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  33. Sub-Zero

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    The whole “pay a fee for ad free service” era was cute

     
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  34. laxjoe

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    It all sucks. Glad I can get no ads for another $36 per year!
     
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  35. Jimmy the Saint

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    I mostly just live with the ads. The only one I pay to avoid them is HBO Max.
     
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    Fifm
     
  37. Kevintensity

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    Ion? Iono what that is
     
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  38. snowfx2

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    It’s a pretty smart concept until boomers and older Gen Xers die off.

    Get syndication rights to Dick Wolf and CBS procedural dramas, and do a marathon of each show one day a week.
     
  39. Jimmy the Saint

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    They also entertained bidding on the Pac-12 TV rights.
     
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  40. snowfx2

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    They got rights to NWSL and WNBA games recently as well. And I believe picked up some local rights in other leagues of teams whose RSNs went under.
     
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  41. Det. Frank Bullitt

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    This stuff is so stupid.

    What channel is the game on? All 4?

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  42. NP13

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    Yes. ESPN2 will probably be the Manning Cast
     
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  43. Sub-Zero

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    May not want to look up the CFP title game
     
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  44. Goose

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    Ion is also apparently a fallback plan if Bally Sports collapses
     
  45. Goose

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    Or the final 4
     
  46. bro

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  47. laxjoe

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    Is anyone else’s YTTV fucked up tonight? Kept buffering like crazy. Had to go over to ESPN app and that’s working much better
     
  48. Kevintensity

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    Mine did for about ten seconds one time
     
  49. TDintheCorner

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    I’ve noticed that they struggle with the bigger broadcasts. Had the same issue in the first round.
     
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