Seinfeld

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  1. Dwight Schrute

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  2. Lorne Malvo

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    Agree to disagree. It's not like I'm calling Seinfeld shit. I agree, Seinfeld is a top 5 sitcom. It's top 2. But AD at its best is still the funniest thing I've ever seen.
     
  3. hudson

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    seinfeld did it longer and harder, also seinfeld didn't have that lame second half of the third season.
     
  4. jkun

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    greatest show of all time IMO. Went through and watched every epsiode last year just 2 a night eating dinner, fucking amazing. When you watch them consecutively you see how much stuff from past episodes pops back into new ones.
     
  5. Mix

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    I think I started watching it during its first run around season 6 or so when I hit middle school. So many things would have my parents cracking up and I'd have no idea what they actually meant. I've probably seen every ep now 5-10 times each and they are still watchable. No show holds up that well to me. Simpsons is probably the only one close to that in terms of always being willing to watch a re-run.
     
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  6. tne

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    I use "I choose not to run!" on a regular basis
     
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  7. hudson

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  8. RoyalShocker

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    Honored to have witnessed this exchange between two retards that frequent this site.
     
  9. Ikawgagoo

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    I've watched most every episode 5-10 times and it never gets old
     
  10. Trip McNeely

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    Agree with most posters ITT. Seen every episode multiple times and it never gets old. I'm thankful to my parents for making Seinfeld a weekly family event when I was growing up.

    I wish they still showed the Puerto Rican Day Parade episode on TV. Kel Varnsen is one of my favorite "characters"
     
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  11. JC

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    Just coming to post that the Puerto Rican Day Parade episode is one of the best. So many classic parts and it's a damn shame it's not shown on tv.
     
  12. dcon79

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    Not tv obviously but just found it on youtube

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHnBaaGWMJY
     
  13. Redav

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    2nd to arrested development?
     
  14. JohnLocke

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    anytime someone tells me seinfeld isn't funny i legitimately get mad
     
  15. Seavie

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    George is the best main character.
    Can't decide between Newman, Frank Costanza, or Mr. Peterman for best side character.
     
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  16. Redav

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    Kramer was the best character imo. Fav episode is the Kenny Rogers Roasters or Serenity Now.
     
  17. skiedfrillet

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    b\w those 3 it's gotta be peterman
     
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  18. Nostradumass

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    Someone mentioned all the famous side characters, and that really is what makes the show so incredible to consider.

    You have over 4000 minutes of television in that show and there are some memorable characters who were literally there for 12 of them. 12 minutes out of 4000+, yet they were so well written, so well acted, and able to bounce off the four so well that they became pop culture.
     
  19. Snakes

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    Me too. I also immediately lose respect for them.
     
  20. George Costanza

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    Best show ever. Never gets old. I probably use more Seinfeld references in day-to-day life than any other show by far.
     
  21. BayouMafia

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    I remember it was national news that a guy got fired from work over this episode and then won a huge judgement.

    If I remember correctly this guy and several coworkers would get together on Friday mornings and talk about the previous night's episode. After this one he prints out a definition of "clitoris" from the dictionary and brings it to the discussion ( :idk: ). The woman in their group complains to HR and he gets fired.

    Edit: found it
    http://courses.cs.vt.edu/cs3604/lib/Workplace/jlsein.html


    THE "SEINFELD" CASE:
    SEXUAL HARASSMENT BACKLASH?



    Originally published in August, 1997

    Last month, Jerold Mackenzie was awarded an astounding $26.6 million by a Milwaukee jury who said he'd been wrongfully terminated. Mackenzie was fired by Miller Brewing Company because he'd discussed a "Seinfeld" episode with a female co-worker. Although the "Seinfeld" anecdote in fact accounted only for a small portion of the phenomenal verdict, this case provides some important insights into the handling of sexual harassment complaints.
    The Facts
    This case actually turned more on the misrepresentations made to the plaintiff about his position with Miller Brewing Company and his "grade level " than about sexual harassment.

    Jerold Mackenzie began his employment with Miller in 1974. In 1987, as a result of a company reorganization, one of the three departments that Mackenzie managed was assigned to another manager. Mackenzie's boss, Robert Smith, assured him that his grade level (14) was not affected by the restructuring.

    In 1992, however, Mackenzie was informed that his grade level had in fact been downgraded to a 13 back in 1987. According to Mackenzie, being downgraded was the "kiss of death" at Miller Brewing Company. Had he known of the downgrade when it occurred, Mackenzie argued, he would have sought other employment years earlier. Mackenzie also claimed that Smith intentionally interfered with a promotion recommended for Mackenzie.

    In addition, in late 1992 a co-worker, individual defendant Patricia Best, lodged a complaint of sexual harassment against Mackenzie based upon Mackenzie's discussion of an episode of "Seinfeld" at the office. In the episode, Jerry Seinfeld could not remember the name of a woman he was dating, but did recall that her name (Delores) rhymed with a female body part. Apparently, when Best did not understand the reference to the female body part, Mackenzie copied the dictionary definition of "clitoris" and showed it to Best. Mackenzie claimed that Best was not, in reality, offended by the conversation, but subsequently complained in order to have him fired, improving her own position in the company.
    The Claims and the Verdict
    Based on these facts, Mackenzie sued not only Miller Brewing Company, but also Smith and Best individually. Three of Mackenzie's claims went to trial: intentional misrepresentation by Miller and Robert Smith, based upon their failure to disclose his change in grade level; tortious interference with prospective contract by Smith, for his alleged interference with Mackenzie's promotion; and tortious interference with Mackenzie's employment contract by Best, due to her complaint.

    The jury awarded Mackenzie $501,500.00 against Smith and $24,501,500.00 against Miller Brewing for his claim of intentional misrepresentation; $100,000.00 against Smith for Mackenzie's claim of tortious interference with his proposed promotion; and $1,500,000.00 against Best for tortious interference with Mackenzie's employment contract, based upon her complaint of sexual harassment. Of these amounts, a total of $20,000,000.00 was punitive damages, including the entire award against Best.
    An Aberration or a Trend?
    One reading of the Mackenzie verdict is that the "sexual harassment wave" has gone too far. The case certainly highlights potential creative causes of action against employees who complain of harassment- and employers who take action based on those complaints. But the vast majority of the $26.6 million figure had absolutely nothing to do with the allegation that Patricia Best fraudulently complained that she was offended by Mackenzie in order to get him fired. Additionally, jury verdicts of this proportion rarely survive an appeal. In all likelihood, this figure will be reduced by either the trial court or the state appellate court as excessive.
    How Should an Employer Respond to a Complaint of Sexual Harassment?
    The lesson of Mackenzie v. Miller Brewing Co. should not be to refuse to discipline an alleged perpetrator of sexual harassment out of fear that he or she will sue. Employers have a duty to take "prompt and appropriate remedial action" in response to a sexual harassment complaint. That usually includes an investigation, and may mean possible discipline of a perpetrator if sexual harassment is found. Here are factors to consider at that point:

    • Have there been previous complaints against the alleged perpetrator? Has the alleged perpetrator been warned on previous occasions?
    • Was the conduct egregious? A single comment? Was touching involved?
    • Is there corroboration for the complaint? Is there corroboration for the alleged perpetrator's defense?
    • How credible is each party?

    Depending upon the facts, the appropriate action could range anywhere from informing the complaining employee that his or her complaint could not be substantiated, to an oral reprimand, a written warning, suspension or termination of the harasser.

    The other lesson from this case: don't try to hide changes in an employee's title, status, grade or compensation package. If you have a good reason to make the change, make it, and explain your reasons to the employee.

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  22. JC

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    Yep George is my favorite character in tv history. He was just great in every episode.
     
  23. Snakes

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    George completely carried the show. It always bothers me when people rank Kramer as a top 10 TV character of all time and not George. I love Kosmo, but George was a lot better.
     
  24. I <3 bama cock

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    :edmond: no one carried the show.
     
  25. hudson

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  29. Seavie

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    Nothing's finer than being in your diner.
     
  30. Ray McKigney

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    Came here to post this. By far my favorite non-main character monologue. Encompasses what is so great about the writing on this show.

    GOAT sitcom and it's not even close.

    Didnt see it posted earlier but the two gay guys that steal the armoir from Kramer are two of my other favorite ancillary characters.
     
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  31. Ray McKigney

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    I was actually thinking to myself recently that this episode hadn't been on in a long long time. I was unaware they stopped showing it. Presumably because of the puerto rican flag burning?
     
  32. Daniel Ocean

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    "The Puerto Rican Day Parade" was criticized not only for the flag-burning incident, but also for perceived negative portrayals of Puerto Ricans, such as the scene where an angry mob of parade-goers damages Jerry's car, and Kramer later utters, "It's like this every day in Puerto Rico!"[1] The episode sparked angry letters, protests outside NBC's Rockefeller Center in New York[2], and complaints from Puerto Rican activists.[1] NBC formally apologized for the episode[1], and later pulled it from summer repeats.[2] However, it later began to appear in syndication, and is featured in its entirety on the DVD set for Seinfeld's ninth season.
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  33. Big Ern McCracken

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    I have seen every episode multiple times, but I have seen this episode once I beleive. It was also late at night on a local channel.
     
  34. NWestGator

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  35. Big Ern McCracken

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    LOVE the Costanzas
     
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    Do you know about the cup sizes? Theres the A, the B , the C, and the D. The D is the biggest.
     
  37. Redav

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  38. ArtVanDeLay

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    It was/is a great show. Sniffling accountant could be the best episode ever. Also, like the one where Kramer goes to LA and get's mixed up in a murder/writes a treatment/sees Fred Savage/gets a job on Murphy Brown. The one where they go to India is good too. It's done in reverse.
     
  39. BellottiBold

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    That's honestly my favorite episode of them all. The psychosis of the Kramer character and everybody's response was fucking fantastic.

    edit - Either that or the episode where George refuses to let Play Now fire him.
     
  40. BellottiBold

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    amateur.
     
  41. Ikawgagoo

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    I only started watching it about 2 years ago so yeah
     
  42. Teddy Westside

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    The last 3 seasons to me will always go down as the best of any show.
     
  43. thatswhatshesaid

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    Watched the show an unhealthy number of times. I can't pick a favorite episode or character, it changes constantly.

    I think my favorite scenes are; (1) the pants episode where Peterman buys Kramers stories. Kramer is telling Elaine he was wearing the pants he was going to return and Elaine asks what he was going to wear home and Kramer laughs and says "Elaine, are you even listening? I never made it to the store!" and (2) when Kramer is explaining the whole "write off" thing to Jerry..."but they do...and they're the ones writing them off"
     
  44. Redav

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  45. colonel_forbin

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    greatest show of all time. nothing else is even remotely close
     
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