Re: *Official Chelsea Thread*-- Buying Brazilians left and right Yea. Enjoy your victory. Hilario or Turnbull, we're screwed. They've both been all kinds of awful in the pre-season but the rest of the squad hasn't exactly given them much help. Second signing will be Luiz IMO.
Re: *Official Chelsea Thread*-- Buying Brazilians left and right Thoughts? Karim Benzema and Cash for Cole. Personally I don't want to lose Cole but if you are going to lose him this isn't a bad way to go I don't think Benzema has gotten a chance at Real and maybe a move out from under all those other stars would be good for him and give him some motivation. As soon as these rumors surface we are linked with Fabio Coentráo who would slide right into Coles LB position. I'd prefer Coentráo to Darijo Srna just based on age. Ashley wants out of London and England I think if you can pull off the Coentráo move to have cover then these two moves make sense. Combine with the rumors about Luiz and we would become Benfica north, but I still think the asking price is way too high. Who else loves the silly season?
Re: *Official Chelsea Thread*-- Buying Brazilians left and right I agree Cole must stay. I think Coentrao overachieved at the World Cup anyways.
Re: *Official Chelsea Thread*-- Buying Brazilians left and right Everytime Ancelotti is asked about Cole, he dismisses talk of him moving. I think Ancelotti has been honest in dealing with the media re: transfers. He said he'd run around the training ground naked if the club signed anyone in the January transfer window last season. Chelsea obviously didn't.
Re: *Official Chelsea Thread*-- Buying Brazilians left and right Highly doubt Cole goes anywhere. Mourinho seems willing to cut off his left nut for him but I don't think Ancelotti is going to let him leave. Predictions for the Community Shield tomorrow? I've got 2-1 United. We need a wake up call after sleepwalking through the Netherlands/Germany tour.
Re: *Official Chelsea Thread*-- Buying Brazilians left and right I'm more concerned about the backup GK situation. Supposedly, Zenit St Petersburg are going to offer us 2.5 million more for Zhirkov than we paid last year. Not really sure if I'd rather see him stay or go. I think he is a really good player, but is misused. He is a better LM/LW than LB and with how well Florent played, rarely got a chance to get PT there and I don't want Kakuta being blocked on the depth chart. And he was constantly injured which didn't help. Great option as a sub since he can replace Cole or Malouda, but 21 million for a backup should be tempting.
Re: *Official Chelsea Thread*-- Buying Brazilians left and right I'd like to see him stay. When he gets a chance to play and gets to come forward he makes some good offensive plays.
Re: *Official Chelsea Thread*-- Buying Brazilians left and right http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12876_6300824,00.html Mourinho has given up the fight on Cole. Is Luiz still on the market? If so, I'd sell Zhirkov and apply those funds to land the versatile defender.
Re: *Official Chelsea Thread*-- Buying Brazilians left and right I am going to go with 2-1 Chelsea. I know they are missing couple key players but I think they win it.
Re: *Official Chelsea Thread*-- Buying Brazilians left and right This line up lacks the punch that we will hopefully see next weekend.
Re: *Official Chelsea Thread*-- Buying Brazilians left and right Getting Essien and Mikel back for you is huge though.
Re: *Official Chelsea Thread*-- Buying Brazilians left and right awful challenge by scholes. dirty ginger cunt.
Re: *Official Chelsea Thread*-- Buying Brazilians left and right Typical Scholes. Lacks pace to keep up and makes a horrible tackle.
Re: *Official Chelsea Thread*-- Buying Brazilians left and right Almost a beautiful ball and chip by man u. Ashley Cole going to throw the game on purpose to get his transfer. I am just having a laugh, but he did get beat on that one.
Re: *Official Chelsea Thread*-- Buying Brazilians left and right Looking back, we should have accepted City's offer for Terry. Plus, it would have made the Bridge story much better.
Re: *Official Chelsea Thread*-- Buying Brazilians left and right That was a woeful defensive performance... Terry was slow all day, It seemed like every time I turned around a Man U guy was bursting in behind our back line. Cole played decently going forward but his Defense was mediocre. Zhirkov looked dangerous going forward when he came on but he gave the ball away in the defensive half much too easily. Hilario was out of position numerous times and Backup GK is turning into one of my top concerns. In the Midfield things looks cluttered in the first half too many players getting into each others way with Mikel, Essien, and Lampard all milling around the center of the pitch. Everything looked better after the 60 min changes with Sturridge terrorizing Johnny Evans and Kalou looking better on the left side of the front 3. Sturridge still seems a little too greedy at times taking a poor shot when he should find the extra pass but his willingness to go at his man more then makes up for that. If Kalou could have could have kept his wits about him and been able to get a solid foot on the late cross then we might have evened it up. Game reinforced some issues: When Cech is out we are in trouble. Terry is not playing well right now and seems a step slow. We are a couple of weeks from being ready for a real game. Good thing WBA is up first. Chicharito looks like he is going to be starting alongside Rooney quickly and that could be a deadly combo. Overall we are still missing pieces obviously and I think we need to add two more players, talk Benfica down on Luiz and add an attacking option.
Re: *Official Chelsea Thread*-- Buying Brazilians left and right We are learning from Arsenal and stole one of Barca's best young players: Gio Chanturia And Kaka has started the Ramires hype cliffs: Kaka thinks he is the best young CM in the world and will be the best MF in the world within a few years
Re: *Official Chelsea Thread*-- Buying Brazilians left and right Great, now my expectations just shot up for Ramires. If he is as good as described above, Mikel will be riding the pine and only starting in Carling Cup and early round FA Cup games.
Re: *Official Chelsea Thread*-- Buying Brazilians left and right Excited to see Ramires, Luiz and Neymar tonight
Re: *Official Chelsea Thread*-- Buying Brazilians left and right Neymar was special tonight very skilled with the ball at his feet and always seemed to be in the action. This kid could help us right now today. Luiz was very solid at the back. Ramires wasn't as noticeable for most of the game then subbed out without a huge impact but he did prove willing to go in on a tackle.
Re: *Official Chelsea Thread*-- Buying Brazilians left and right my buddy who hates soccer watched the match with me, and he couldnt believe just how much better Neymar was than everyone else on the field tonight. Kid put on a show, hoping we can get him locked up.
Re: *Official Chelsea Thread*-- Buying Brazilians left and right Who do you think we replace Carvalho with? Directly replace him by getting Luiz, moving Ivanovic permanently inside and signing Srna to replace him as a RB, just promoting Bruma to 4th CB, or something else? It opens up another foreign roster spot, but I'd rather get Neymar or Ozil than Luiz/Srna.
Re: *Official Chelsea Thread*-- Buying Brazilians left and right Alex will step in as JTs partner, I would go for Luiz atm as the 3rd CB and as for a future step in for Terry. Bran is needed on the right and I'd rather not sign Srna as he isn't getting younger, Bosingwa will be back eventually but at this point I'm not sure he beats out Bran at RB. If we are forced to keep playing paulo things could be ugly. Idealy we have Bran, Alex, JT, Cole starting with Luiz or Brouma as a sub. Brouma may need another year and some Carling Cup games before he is ready for the show he certainly hasn't wowed me or even made me confident in his skills yet in the pre season. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out.
Re: *Official Chelsea Thread*-- Buying Brazilians left and right I really want Luiz, but Benfica are being faggots over him
Re: *Official Chelsea Thread*-- Buying Brazilians left and right Right now Luiz is priced too high imo, I say put Ivanovic inside and get Srna, I really want Ozil too, but Neymar would be just as good, hope we even have a chance with one of them
Re: *Official Chelsea Thread*-- Buying Brazilians left and right JT looks old and slow. Luiz is young and quick. I'd hope we could land him but you're right, Benfica are not taking kindly to Chelsea taking their top talent. Something must be done - and quickly.
Re: *Official Chelsea Thread*-- Buying Brazilians left and right We might be facing another transfer controversy. Santos is reporting us to FIFA because we sent people to NY to try and convince Neymar to leave them.
Re: *Official Chelsea Thread*-- Buying Brazilians left and right I have no doubt we did, but every club probably does this. I really want Neymar and I think Neymar and his family want the move. It seems Santos are going to do everything they can do prevent the inevitable transfer from happening. Not saying he's going to Chelsea, but he'll move somewhere.
Re: *Official Chelsea Thread*-- Buying Brazilians left and right http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/transfer-zone/2010/08/12/2067479/santos-striker-neymar-agrees-to-move-to-chelsea-report Please be true.
Re: *Official Chelsea Thread*-- Buying Brazilians left and right Hey guys, I just made the move from the Rivals' board. Big, big Chelsea supporter. I am looking forward to discussing the Blues with yall this season. Also, please, please, please let these Neymar rumors come true.
Re: *Official Chelsea Thread*-- Buying Brazilians left and right Ramires granted his work permit. Anyone read anything encouraging on Luiz or Neymar? Slow day it seems. Cech and Alex are good to go for Saturday. But it appears Lampard will be sitting this one out.
Re: *Official Chelsea Thread*-- Buying Brazilians left and right Speaking to the Blues' official website, a reticent Ancelotti revealed the Brazil international was on his shopping list. He said: "I can say Neymar is a fantastic player but he is not a Chelsea player now and it is difficult for me to speak about this. I can say just about his technical quality. "We are interested in all the young players that come through in the world, Neymar is one of these but this doesn't mean we have to buy this player." My thought: We get him. Why would Ancelotti make such a public comment about Neymar if he didn't think we had a reasonable shot a landing Neymar? Additionally, he commented that we aren't after David Luiz.
Re: *Official Chelsea Thread*-- Buying Brazilians left and right Neymar's dad is also pleading with Santos to accept our offer, and has made it clear he does not want Neymar staying
Re: *Official Chelsea Thread*-- Buying Brazilians left and right I wouldn't be surprised if Santos holds on to Neymar and Ganso for the remainder of the Brasileiro season, which ends in December.
Re: *Official Chelsea Thread*-- Buying Brazilians left and right Pay a shitload for Neymar so those bastards can buy Robinho.
Re: *Official Chelsea Thread*-- Buying Brazilians left and right At some point I think Chelsea and Santos will meet in the middle before the window closes. Chelsea wants Neymar, Neymar and family wants to go to Chelsea, Santos just wants to get paid. Probably see a sale go down for around 24-26MM pounds at some point IMO.
Re: *Official Chelsea Thread*-- Buying Brazilians left and right Here is the latest article from Brazil's most respected sports outlet. Google translate had a few issues, but I think yall can get the gist of the article. 13/08/2010 19h46 - Atualizado em 13/08/2010 20h27 13/08/2010 19h46 - Updated 13/08/2010 20h27 Agente de Neymar confirma proposta inglesa e aguarda resposta santista Agent confirms Neymar English proposal and is awaiting response from Santos Wagner Ribeiro diz que oferta do clube inglês cobre a parte dos direitos sobre o jogador que cabem ao Santos. Wagner Ribeiro said that the English club offering covers the rights over the player to be borne by Santos. Na terça, reunião com o Peixe On Tuesday, meeting with the Fish Por GLOBOESPORTE.COM Santos, SP By GLOBOESPORTE.COM Santos, SP imprimir print Neymar, treino Santos Neymar aguarda desfecho da novela (Foto: AE) Neymar pending outcome of the novel (Photo: EA) No momento em que Neymar se impacientava com jornalistas que lhe perguntavam sobre proposta do Chelsea para contratá-lo, negando que tivesse recebido qualquer oferta, seu agente, Wagner Ribeiro, detalhava os termos do que foi proposto à família do jogador pelo clube comandado pelo russo Roman Abramovich. At the moment Neymar is impatient with reporters who asked about a proposal from Chelsea to sign him, denying that he had received an offer, his agent, Wagner Ribeiro, detailing the terms of what was offered to the family of the player for the club run by Russian Roman Abramovich. O agente confirmou que está nos Estados Unidos com o pai de Neymar, Neymar dos Santos Silva, onde, na última segunda-feira, jantou com representantes do clube inglês. The agent has confirmed it is in America with the father of Neymar, Neymar dos Santos Silva, where, last Monday, he dined with representatives of the English club. O agente afirma que, em termos de projeção de carreira e, claro, financeiros, a melhor alternativa para Neymar é aceitar a oferta inglesa. The agent states that in terms of projection of career and of course financial, the best alternative to Neymar is to accept the British offer. - Se o Santos for só dar um aumento para o Neymar, não adianta. - If the Saints are only to give an increase to the Neymar it's useless. Ele precisa de projeção na carreira. He needs projection career. Queremos que ele seja eleito o melhor jogador do mundo - afirmou, em entrevista à Rádio Globo. We want it to be voted best player in the world - said in an interview with Radio Globo. Quando fala em aumento salarial para Neymar, o agente está se referindo a uma reunião que haverá na próxima terça-feira, na Vila Belmiro, entre os pais do jogador ea diretoria santista. When talking about salary increases for Neymar, the agent is referring to a meeting there next Tuesday, at Vila Belmiro, between parents and the board of the player from Santos. O Alvinegro quer apresentar um plano de carreira para que o jovem possa ganhar projeção mesmo sem sair do Brasil. The Alvinegro want to submit a career plan for the young can gain projection even without leaving Brazil. Ribeiro, porém, não acredita muito nisso. Ribeiro, however, does not believe it too much. - A possibilidade de o Neymar ser escolhido o melhor do mundo jogando no Brasil é zero. - The possibility that Neymar be chosen the best in the world playing in Brazil is zero. Temos os melhores jogadores, mas não temos um campeonato de nível. We have the best players but we do not have a championship level. Agora, quem vai decidir tudo é o menino com a sua família. Now, who will decide all is the boy with his family. Segundo Ribeiro, os € 30 milhões (R$ 67,5 milhões) que o Chelsea está oferecendo pelo jogador é a maior proposta atualmente em curso no mercado. According to Ribeiro, the € 30 million (U.S. $ 67.5 million) that Chelsea is offering the player is the biggest proposal currently under way in the market. O montante ainda não atinge o valor da multa rescisória, € 35 milhões (R$ 78,7 milhões), mas, de acordo com o agente, já há a garantia de que o Peixe receberá os € 21 milhões (R$ 47,2 milhões) que lhe cabem, referentes a 60% dos direitos econômicos do atleta que possui. The amount has not reached the value of rescission fine, € 35 million (U.S. $ 78.7 million), but, according to the agent, there is already a guarantee that the fish will receive the € 21 million (U.S. $ 47.2 million) that fit you, referring to 60% of the economic rights of the athlete who has. Os outros 40% são do grupo de investimentos DIS. The other 40% are investment group DIS. É aí que os discursos se tornam divergentes. That's where the speeches become divergent. O agente diz que há um documento, assinado pelo presidente do Santos, Luis Alvaro de Oliveira Ribeiro, que determina o seguinte: o clube interessado em Neymar paga ao Santos € 21 milhões e negocia o restante com o grupo DIS. The agent says there is a document signed by the president of Santos, Luis Alvaro de Oliveira Ribeiro, which provides as follows: the club interested in Neymar Santos paid to € 21 million and is negotiating with the remaining group DIS. No entanto, o dirigente garante que isso não existe. However, the leader ensures that it does not exist. Luis Alvaro sustenta que o Santos tem de receber o valor integral, € 35 milhões, e depois repassar ao DIS os 40%. Luis Alvaro Santos maintains that must receive the full amount, € 35 million, and then pass to the DIS 40%.
Re: *Official Chelsea Thread*-- Buying Brazilians left and right This should be easier to read.... Agent confirms Neymar English proposal and is awaiting response from Santos Neymar Português Agent Confirms Proposal and is awaiting response from Santos Wagner Ribeiro said that the English club offering covers the rights over the player to be borne by Santos. Wagner Ribeiro Said That Português the club offering covers the rights over the player to Be Post by Santos. On Tuesday, meeting with the Fish On Tuesday, meeting with the Fish By GLOBOESPORTE.COM Santos, SP GLOBOESPORTE.COM By Santos, SP print print Neymar, training Santos Neymar pending outcome of the novel (Photo: EA) Neymar pending outcome of the novel (Photo: EA) At the moment Neymar is impatient with reporters who asked about a proposal from Chelsea to sign him, denying that he had received an offer, his agent, Wagner Ribeiro, detailing the terms of what was offered to the family of the player for the club run by Russian Roman Abramovich. At the moment Neymar is impatient with reporters Who Asked about the Proposal from Chelsea to sign him, Denying That he HAD received an offer, his agent, Wagner Ribeiro, detailing the terms of what Was Offered To The family of the player for the club run by Russian Roman Abramovich. The agent has confirmed it is in America with the father of Neymar, Neymar dos Santos Silva, where, last Monday, he dined with representatives of the English club. The agent Has Confirmed It Is in America with the father of Neymar, Neymar dos Santos Silva, where, last Monday, he dined with Representatives of the Club Português. The agent states that in terms of projection of career and of course financial, the best alternative to Neymar is to accept the British offer. That the agent states in terms of projection of career and financial of course, the best alternative to Neymar is to accept the British offer. - If the Saints are only to give an increase to the Neymar it's useless. - If the Saints are only to give an Increase to the Neymar it's useless. He needs projection career. He Needs projection career. We want it to be voted best player in the world - said in an interview with Radio Globo. We want it to Be Voted best player in the World - Said in an interview with Radio Globo. When talking about salary increases for Neymar, the agent is referring to a meeting there next Tuesday, at Vila Belmiro, between parents and the board of the player from Santos. When talking about salary Increases for Neymar, the agent is Referring to a meeting there next Tuesday, at Vila Belmiro, Between parents and the board of the player from Santos. The Alvinegro want to submit a career plan for the young can gain projection even without leaving Brazil. The Alvinegro want to submit a career plan for the young Can gain projection without even leaving Brazil. Ribeiro, however, does not believe it too much. Ribeiro, However, does not believe it too much. - The possibility that Neymar be chosen the best in the world playing in Brazil is zero. - The Possibility That Be Neymar chosen the best in the world playing in Brazil is zero. We have the best players but we do not have a championship level. We have the best players But we do not Have to championship level. Now, who will decide all is the boy with his family. Now, Who Will decides all is the boy with his family. According to Ribeiro, the € 30 million (U.S. $ 67.5 million) that Chelsea is offering the player is the biggest proposal currently under way in the market. According to Ribeiro, the € 30 million (U.S. $ 67.5 million) that Chelsea is offering the player is the biggest Proposal Currently under way in the market. The amount has not reached the value of rescission fine, € 35 million (U.S. $ 78.7 million), but, according to the agent, there is already a guarantee that the fish will receive the € 21 million (U.S. $ 47.2 million) that fit you, referring to 60% of the economic rights of the athlete who has. The Amount Has not Reached the value of rescission fine, € 35 million (U.S. $ 78.7 million), But, According to the agent, there is Already a guarantee on the fish That Will receive the € 21 million (U.S. $ 47.2 million) that fit you, Referring to 60% of the Economic Rights of the Athlete Who Has. The other 40% are investment group DIS. The Other 40% are investment group DIS. That's where the speeches become divergent. That's Where the speeches Become divergent. The agent says there is a document signed by the president of Santos, Luis Alvaro de Oliveira Ribeiro, which provides as follows: the club interested in Neymar Santos paid to € 21 million and is negotiating with the remaining group DIS. The agent says there is a document signed by the president of Santos, Luis Alvaro de Oliveira Ribeiro, Which Provides as follows: the club interested in Neymar Santos paid to € 21 million and is Negotiating With The Remaining group DIS. However, the leader ensures that it does not exist. However, the leader Ensures That It does not exist. Luis Alvaro Santos maintains that must receive the full amount, € 35 million, and then pass to the DIS 40%. Luis Alvaro Santos maintains That must receive the full Amount, € 35 million, and then pass to the DIS 40%.
Re: *Official Chelsea Thread*-- Buying Brazilians left and right I don't fully get the "home grown" rules yet, but Neymar could qualify as home grown if he were to transfer to Chelsea now, right? I'm getting ahead of myself here but...
Re: *Official Chelsea Thread*-- Buying Brazilians left and right the homegrown rule is such a shit rule. Basically the English clubs will buy the best 16-18 years olds in Europe in order to qualify for this rule. I could not believe that the FA agreed to it.
Re: *Official Chelsea Thread*-- Buying Brazilians left and right Yeah, all I think its gonna do is drive up the price for unproven youngsters, which is stupid.