i'm trying to show you that it's way more complicated than "it's common sense" it's quite literally one of the most complicated positions someone could be in
I would love for you to tell women, the LGBTQ community, students suffering in student debt, those on medical, immigrants, POC that they don’t matter and trump is the same as Biden. See how that works?
It's really not. I don't not care what the topic is. If option A isn't great on your most passionate topic but option B is way way worse, it makes no sense to help option B in any way. Topic doesn't matter.
Accuracy matters when some people present everything as maximalist. You're ignoring the Palestinian Americans who supported Biden in the primary and are organizing for him in the general. I'd say the same about any ethnic group you're trying to wield as a bludgeon when the picture is far more grey than presented.
that is exactly the implication of the argument being made. Because, if the rational logical conclusion is that Biden would be better for Palestine how could anyone argue that it’s justified to risk another trump term? The implications is the difference between the two is marginal so don’t vote for Biden and risk a Trump presidency.
In case anyone was to locked in on The Valley and not paying attention to The Hill the week https://www.forbes.com/sites/sarado...g-house-speaker-mike-johnson/?sh=77cf26394d32
im literally not ignoring them, the fuck is your reading comp we are under the umbrella of talking about the palestinians who wont vote for biden, I wasnt aware I needed to re-establish the verbiage given that's the conversation we were already having
Then stop using your gotcha of go talk to a Palestinian American. I have and do, they don't agree with you.
He's correct, many Palestinian Americans agree, and have these same conversations. It's a reasonable and happening discussion.
I'm glad we're now being fully contextualized on the topic instead of the silly finger wagging every few days.
and all I am saying is it is way more nuanced than "but trump is worse" like he is pretending that it is
It's not privileged, it's just factual. I understand they don't have a good choice, but helping the worse of 2 bad choices doesn't help their cause. That goes for any topic out there.
Ok, I see where our disconnect is. I’m talking about their rationale and you’re talking about the implications. Both are valid, IMO, which is why I think this thread has gone in circles for so long.
I understand the rationale I really do. It’s why I never voted for a democrat before 2016. Voting 3rd party was my “protest” so I get. I just think Trump will be way worse on everything.
Haberman had to write a book to get a payday from her time getting Trump loads dumped on her. Point awarded to Stormy Daniels
Ehh last night did seem to be way crossing the line even if it's a niche story for white collar wasps to care too much about
Protests on Columbias campus. It's complicated and at the end of the day meaningless but yelling at Jewish students to go back to Poland going to be a big yikes from me.
Some bad people trying to take advantage of what was a terrible move by Columbias president but now will be overshadowed by those lunatics who likely are unrelated to the university
If you're quoting that insanely evil Shai professor then I'm immediately ignoring everything else. That guy has gotten students harassed and assaulted and keeps claiming he's a victim.
I swore a vow before the Gods. Both the Old and the New to not give a shit about the quarterly big political story from an Ivy League campus.
This discussion is too nuanced for the internet. There was some real and vile shit being shouted toward Jewish students last night. There also a lot of people claiming the protests are inherently antisemetic as a way to delegitimize them, which is obviously BS. Both can be true. Acknowledging that doesn’t diminish the other.