Official Investing Thread

Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by Joe Louis, Jul 12, 2010.

  1. Arkadin

    Arkadin inefficiently efficent and unclearly clear
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    i get a big depost into mine next month sometime. thats one positive to getting crushed right now i guess
     
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  2. allothersnsused

    allothersnsused Wow that’s crazy
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    Guess I wont be buying a house this year
     
  3. Cheshire Bridge

    Cheshire Bridge 2017 & 2019 National Champions - Clemson Tigers
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    Gonna give it another week. Then buy some distressed banks. Swinging for the fences!
     
  4. je ne suis pas ici

    je ne suis pas ici Well-Known Member
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    (not mine just a pic off twitter)

    nog, we fucked
     
  5. pockets

    pockets Lesser-Known Member
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    cant help but think theyre already on the decline, at least as far as a growth cycle goes. pretty amazing actually, but theyre being gashed by competitors.
     
  6. je ne suis pas ici

    je ne suis pas ici Well-Known Member
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    the only person not losing money right now

    [​IMG]
     
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  7. I'll Give You Asthma

    I'll Give You Asthma speak hate, get a plate, eat cake...bitch
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    Been short S&P, long Gold for a while now. Too long, in fact :(

    Almost back to even on them shits.
     
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  8. je ne suis pas ici

    je ne suis pas ici Well-Known Member
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    also the blizzard will likely hurt a lot of businesses in the NE this wknd
     
  9. allothersnsused

    allothersnsused Wow that’s crazy
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    Plus it has to sit in there for (I think) 7 business days before you can withdraw it for AML purposes. With the holiday, I'm still waiting to pull out some money I put in two weeks ago to put to other purposes.
     
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  10. Rabid

    Rabid Fan of: DQ Treats
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    My taxable account only lost 0.02% yesterday. :smug:

    My retirement accounts on the other hand. :ohshit:
     
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  11. Frank Martin

    Frank Martin tough love makes better posters
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    AXP taking a beating on earnings.
     
  12. Frank Martin

    Frank Martin tough love makes better posters
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    Damn AXP is killing me today.
     
  13. Arkadin

    Arkadin inefficiently efficent and unclearly clear
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    Yeah that's rough
     
  14. beist

    beist Hyperbolist
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    I've been eying AXP for a while, maybe this is a good entry point
     
  15. Frank Martin

    Frank Martin tough love makes better posters
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    Idk. It's looking like their management has already conceded that things won't be better the rest of 2016 nor in 2017.
     
  16. LSUTigers1986

    LSUTigers1986 Well-Known Member
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    Nice oil rally these last two days. But don't go too high... I like 50 hour weeks. $40 is the perfect balance.

    Also lol shocks ORIG call. Offshore drillers were all down today cause theres no hope.
     
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  17. DollarBillHokie

    DollarBillHokie Usher is the worst
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    Why aren't you busy? I keep reading about imminent bankruptcies and many drillers need to sell assets to survive. Shit, Chesapeake should have every single well for sale.
     
  18. tjosu

    tjosu This is kind of like the breakfast club, huh?
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    No thanks, higher please
     
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  19. ChopRoll42

    ChopRoll42 breh
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    anyone looking at any long buys in biotech right now? Pretty unfamiliar class for me but I was told there is some value that can be found there right now.
     
  20. LSUTigers1986

    LSUTigers1986 Well-Known Member
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    Our bread and butter is capital markets (equity and bonds). We're somewhat separate from our assets and divestitures shop. They do all the land deals, type curves etc. Also we don't focus on restructuring (ie Lazard).

    Obviously we're working on some other things (mainly JVs with private equity) but its just a whole lot slower than even last year. Even at $60 oil I had 100 hour weeks and I'm not even at the bottom of the totem pole.
     
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  21. Frank Martin

    Frank Martin tough love makes better posters
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    You must be making bank though.
     
  22. stexraider

    stexraider Fire Everybody
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    for real?

    because gold has been like the worst place to be in the last 5 years

    but his basis in gold I'm sure is decades old - so he's probably still good

    in the short/intermediate term, though - this just isn't correct at all
     
  23. I'll Give You Asthma

    I'll Give You Asthma speak hate, get a plate, eat cake...bitch
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    I think he was talking about that particular day. Equities were tanking, and gold was having a record day.
     
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  24. Frank Martin

    Frank Martin tough love makes better posters
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    If his basis is old in Gold he's probably lost money in that investment.
     
  25. stexraider

    stexraider Fire Everybody
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    gotcha
     
  26. tmbrules

    tmbrules Make America Great Again!
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    Have you looked into JUNO? I like it down here in the low $30's. Its bounced between low $30's and upper $40's a few times.
     
  27. DollarBillHokie

    DollarBillHokie Usher is the worst
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    I don't understand why people play in biotechs. It sure isn't investing unless you are a doctor. This company has no free cash flow and isn't expected to have any in the near future.
     
  28. tmbrules

    tmbrules Make America Great Again!
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    On the simple level its more risk = more reward.

    I understand what you are saying in that it might not be a suitable investment for everyone but he specifically asked about Biotechs and JUNO is one that I follow. Its certainly an investment, just maybe not one with the risk reward profile you are looking for.
     
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  29. Baseballman86

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    Any budget wizards in here that are paid on an every two weeks schedule? How do you set up your budget?
     
  30. beist

    beist Hyperbolist
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    My wife is. My advice is budget like you only get paid twice a month and enjoy the extra paycheck two times per year. That probably isn't the answer you want to hear though.
     
  31. Wywan Bwowna

    Wywan Bwowna Wywan Bwowna
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    It probably isnt the best way to do it, but this is what I do as well.
     
  32. Baseballman86

    Baseballman86 Well-Known Member
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    That's what I figured, but when do you determine exactly when you can "take" the extra paycheck? do you base it on the months with 3 checks or base it around the dates of your bills?
     
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  33. beist

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    I'm not sure I follow. I guess I just base it on months with 3 checks. I do look ahead to see which months will have 3 paychecks (April and September this year), but I don't really try to time my expenses around those months or anything. Basically I just tell myself that if I can't afford it in a 2 paycheck month I shouldn't buy it.
     
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  34. Frank Martin

    Frank Martin tough love makes better posters
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    I feel like budgeting would actually be pretty hard.

    I do get paid once a month though so I guess it would be easy to make one.
     
  35. NDfanPSUgrad

    NDfanPSUgrad Well-Known Member
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    Regarding budgeting...I have mastered my excel file where I reconcile it with my bank statement periodically. Each row is a day and each column is a specific account (income/expense) broken in sub categories. It's a great way to put in recurring payments either monthly or whatever. Set up so it's very easy to pivot on any period or by any account. It definitely makes money conversations easier with family when it's organized like it is.

    We don't quite budget to certain accounts but having the file expand a few years and have all the expected income/expenses gives a quick visual at the account balance and then we just focus on the variable "accounts".
     
  36. beist

    beist Hyperbolist
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    Do you find this better than Mint.com?
     
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  37. NDfanPSUgrad

    NDfanPSUgrad Well-Known Member
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    Ive never used mint.com but a quick check, I like it. I guess if consider myself pretty advanced in Excel and think I can do almost all of that. There are certain things I'm ok being disconnected from the cloud and my home budget is one of them.
     
  38. InZahnWeTrust

    InZahnWeTrust Well-Known Member
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    Formerly Team Quicken. Now Team Mint for personal finances.
     
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  39. heyblinkin

    heyblinkin Fan of: Nice people and Cinnamon Toast Crunch
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    I take my paycheck multiply it by 26 and divide by 12 to get my monthly avg.
     
  40. LSU90

    LSU90 Well-Known Member

    Mint is by far the best thing out there in terms of simplified personal finance and its not even close
     
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  41. Mookie Blaylock

    Mookie Blaylock Well-Known Member
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    From my experience, Personal Capital >>> Mint
     
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  42. InZahnWeTrust

    InZahnWeTrust Well-Known Member
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    Is there a certain feature or features that put Personal Capital above Mint for you? I made the switch from Quicken to Mint because of how much more user friendly it was with the app platform. I used Quicken for 2-3 years, but Mint was well worth the switch for me.
     
  43. Joystick Izzy

    Joystick Izzy Well-Known Member
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    Team Mint. For one thing, I never have to bother checking my bank and CC statements because all the transactions end up in mint. It helped me catch credit card fraud immediately.

    From a budget standpoint, it's awesome to track trends and how much you're spending, on average. It also makes tax time easier, as i can quickly pull up my charitable contributions etc for the year.
     
  44. High Cotton

    High Cotton Where does this fall in our Christian walk?
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  45. je ne suis pas ici

    je ne suis pas ici Well-Known Member
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    fed holds on rate hikes. people expect 1-2 more this year (maybe march and then one in the fall) but definitely not 4+
     
  46. I'll Give You Asthma

    I'll Give You Asthma speak hate, get a plate, eat cake...bitch
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    Didn't see that coming :rolleyes:
     
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  47. * J Y *

    * J Y * TEXAS
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    I personally don't agree with the Fed's timeline over the last year but Im sensitive to their position.
     
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  48. High Cotton

    High Cotton Where does this fall in our Christian walk?
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    Does anyone have experience raising money for a fund?

    I'm looking to raise money for JV real estate partnerships.
     
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  49. Capstone 88

    Capstone 88 Going hard in the paint
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    How do you feel about groveling?
     
  50. * J Y *

    * J Y * TEXAS
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    Im not entirely sure what your structure is, but never underestimate how much loose money is out there. Especially right now when people are going to cash. Then again Im from Texa$ where people write checks and ask questions later bc we aren't allowed to shoot at each other anymore.
     
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