Is $40 million generational wealth?

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Is $40 million generational wealth?

  1. Yes

    93.0%
  2. No

    7.0%
  1. colonelrascals

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    I have 40MM in experiences, life is beautiful.
     
  2. One Two

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    Those experiences aren’t earning compound interest soy boy
     
  3. Biff Bridges

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    I'd move to Japan. Cleanest, most polite place I've ever visited.
     
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  4. skiedfrillet

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    Idk, I’ve seen shogun and how they treat gaijin
     
  5. Lyrtch

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    I'd have a place in Paris, NYC, and Japan.

    Thanks
     
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  6. Tobias

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    and easley sc
     
  7. ned's head

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    It probably depends on how big the family is. Rule of 4s says you could take out $1.6 million out per year without reducing the principal. Let's say you can make another 2% in dividends with an indexed etf...that would be $2.4 million and it should outpace the withdrawals.

    It's generational wealth in that a lot of people would be able to get a lot of money indefinitely. Probably not enough for generations of kids to live without working though
     
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  8. BrickTamland

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    You can't reference the "rule of 4" and then also magically assume you have allocation into dividend-yielding assets.

    That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.
     
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  9. Paddy Murphy

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    Had it on my to do list today to do this exact math even down to using 1M take out in my example. TYFYS, but you forgot to include how much college costs by the time the money gets to the grandkids.

    Also, kinda unreal to know this math and how often people squander this exact scenario within 20-30 years. Although TBH, I’m not sure I’d go to the grave with 40M still in the tank. There’d be some fuck it spending along the way.
     
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  10. PSU12

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    I agree with Japan. Japanese culture is really amazing. I do not agree with NYC or Paris. Paris and France as a whole might be the only place I’ve ever been with people more unhappy at all times than New York.
     
  11. ned's head

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    Sure you can. I acknowledge that it's lazy math and not how the rule was constructed. Since 1980, the s&p has had 15 years with less than 6% returns. 26 with double digit returns, 14 with 20+% returns. 10 years had negative returns.

    I'd be comfortable throwing it all into a dividend yielding, passively managed s&p etf, and taking the 4% + the dividends. I'm not a broker recommending someone else do it... just saying I'd like my chances.
     
  12. Blu Tang Clan

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    Yeah, wasn’t a big fan of Paris and that was a big reason — general grumpiness and overall inefficiency.
     
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  13. Where Eagles Dare

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    There's a high chance College in 80 years will consume most of the half trillion in the primary trust. Checkmate ha

    Yeah, compounding interest is amazing. Once it gets to a certain point you can be a little more frivolous with your spending. But at 84k a month pre capital gains taxes, you're living a fucking life
     
  14. AptosDuck

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    you'll certainly see a fraction of it

    might be a very small fraction

    when Joby hits it big I'll tell you all how I'm spending my millions
     
  15. Lyrtch

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    Skill issue
     
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  16. Lyrtch

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    The French enjoy life at a level Americans can only imagine
     
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  17. AptosDuck

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    "You Americans, you eat too fast!"

    dinner conversation on our last night in Paris
     
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  18. Where Eagles Dare

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  19. Blu Tang Clan

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    Slow pace in eating and hanging out at cafes is fine. Running out of beer at the center court concession stand during the second set of Alcaraz-Korda was not fine.
     
  20. Jake Barnes

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    If you’ve got $40M and don’t get a Tuscan villa, you’re doing it wrong.

    Gelato, pasta, and wine all day ery day. The most beautiful countryside I’ve ever visited.
     
  21. stangd

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    see, going to go broke fast like that...already buying homes in other countries.
     
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  22. BuckeyeRiot

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    If I’m the executor in charge of expenditures, yes. My children’s children will be set. If my wife has the keys, we’re all working until retirement age. I’m seriously considering poisoning the well and having the “why don’t you leave your money to your grandson?” Conversation with my in laws.
     
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  23. Jax Teller

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    Pretty sure he went full shitpit in the Isbel thread too.
     
  24. steamengine

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    Yet you chastise business school.

    Curious!
     
  25. Iron Mickey

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    fellas is having $40m rich
     
  26. wes tegg

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    buncha trickle down marks itt
     
  27. kennypowers

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    So are you the second or third generation in your previous hypothetical? If it’s third then I have some opportunities for you.
     
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  28. Tammy Chiggers

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    I never blasphemed Timmy Ty.
     
  29. billdozer

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    His point is the 4% withdrawal rule includes dividends.
     
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  30. Lyrtch

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    All the dividend obsession lately is odd to me
     
  31. ned's head

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    My point was that I understand it deviates from how it was constructed, but I'd feel just fine with the math for my own money based on everything I posted.
     
  32. LeonardWashington

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    the math was very unrealistic but the principle he is communicating is true

    some people itt too reliant on future value calculators which assume unrealistic linear growth. Idk where you'd find a free site or app that does Monte Carlos but that would produce a much more realistic result (as well as software that would take taxes into account).
     
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  33. IV

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    Pretty sure Excel can do it

    maybe I’m lying pretty sure I studied it in scheduling though
     
  34. LeonardWashington

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    I found a decent free one that I will share tomorrow if I remember
     
  35. Chumbolone

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    Not if it’s in land.
     
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  36. Iron Mickey

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    of course you have an unironic answer
     
  37. Chumbolone

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    Was a joke.
     
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  38. bigred77

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    It's so true though
    I know several people whose family's sit on hundreds of millions of dollars in land and they can barely afford to keep a decent car running

    One family I know, the patriarch is finally considering selling the 500 acres of land that currently 4 generations of family live on (has been in the family since like 1900, but he is trying to figure out how and where to buy a similar sized piece of land just farther out with literally all the money he sells it for so they can all move their trailer houses out to it
     
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  39. Chumbolone

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    Oh dear God… :in-n-out:
     
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  40. TC

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    I can't imagine any of my descendants not being on full scholarship so no issue there
     
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