True Detective

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  1. Mr. Bean

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    Mare of Easttown was a “true detective” show: following leads, interesting characters, red herrings etc.


    I don’t know what to think of this show bc you can’t really put together different theories between episodes based on what is revealed. It doesn’t allow us viewers to be detectives of our own. It’s just undeveloped IMO. Shame bc the acting is quite good all around IMO
     
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  2. Gunners

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    Show started off the deep end, gave a kinda logical explanation

    Went way more off the deep end, idk where this goes from here
     
  3. Tex

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    Probably somewhere in the deep end
     
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  4. London Humphreys

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    Mare of Eastown was really good and needs another season
     
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  5. Pelican

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    Mare of Eastown was phenomenal but I loved the way it ended and don't really want a second season for something that ended so flawlessly.
     
  6. London Humphreys

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    I don't have that discipline. It was a perfect ending though
     
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  7. Jimmy the Saint

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    This is where I'm at with it as well.
     
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  8. TC

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    "YOU'RE IN ONE!!!"
     
  9. Aussie

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    This was honestly probably pitched as a show called Night Country. HBO says "that sounds alright but what if we change a couple of things and tie it into True Detective.".

    Because everything has to be a franchise now.
     
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  10. Jimmy the Saint

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    I probably wouldn't have watched this if not for that branding and I doubt I'm alone in that.
     
  11. TC

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    New HBO Drama called "Night Country"

    New season of "True Detective"
     
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  12. TLAU

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    As far as story, setting and characters: 1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4 > 3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>2
    As far as acting: 1>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>3>>>>>>>>4>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>2

    Let's be real season 3's story wasn't that gripping and the pacing in that season was dreadfully slow. But even if this show wasn't called "true detective" I'd still give it a shot and would probably still be watching because 1- HBO's history of good drama shows 2- As others said it's still better than a shit load of current TV out there
     
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  13. Aussie

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    I definitely would have tried it either way.
     
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  14. Professor Moriarty

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    Every season of True Detective has similar themes. A murder or a missing persons from a town/community greatly impacted by a powerful organization. From the Tuttles, to the corrupt politicians, to the wealthy chicken farmers to the mining company. Every season has elements of the occult or some secret organization directly or indirectly involved in said missing or dead person.

    I’m willing to bet there’s no supernatural Yeti murdering people. Everything is a hallucination induced by whatever the Tsalas found in the ice (a neurological microorganism that might be photosensitive) and perhaps the mining company mistakenly introduced into the water supply. It’s why the caribou ran to their deaths and probably why the scientists did as well.

    This show is going to end with a logical explanation that the natives will dismiss and believe was supernatural and the outsiders will view as a plausible conclusion.
     
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  15. Yanks711

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    Got White Walker/Children of the Forest lives after the end of the first episode. Will continue to watch though
     
  16. Fat Drunk & Stupid

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    This would be way more interesting than the previous two episodes.
     
  17. Professor Moriarty

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    It would be stupid as fuck for True Detectives, dope episode of X-Files though.
     
  18. TLAU

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    The last two episodes really haven't done a whole lot to advance the story or give more insight into what happened. There's been what like 3-4 scenes total (not counting the Vet literally stating something that should have been really obvious to artic police) that legitimately moved the story along and unraveled some of the mystery. There's been a shit ton of "character building" and more mystery happening instead (sister dying, abandoned camp, new crazy person, etc) and the latter is kinda moving the show in the opposite direction it should be moving considering the screen time left.

    Season 1 had a ton of character building, but each episode managed to legitimately move the story forward and have major events unraveling the mystery, not adding to it. Because they did more actual detective work and a lot less "side character building" that nobody reaaaally gives a flying fuck about. They didn't need to give us half of the scenes we had with the sister tbh.
     
  19. nexus

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    My biggest issue goes beyond the wild supernatural or mental heath stuff in that the investigation in to the murders seems completely secondary. There's little to no police work or investigating being done which in a show entitled True Detective is a real problem. Like Liz making the comment to Navarro halfway through this ep that they need to get around to discussing the video. Yeah you fucking think? That seems like a really important and significant development that should have taken priority right away. Also how the hell have they not gone back to the station? They spent like 5 min there in the opening episode and havent returned.
     
  20. London Humphreys

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    Yeah a lot of delayed reveals for a season with only 6 episodes.
     
  21. Professor Moriarty

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    They’ve been back to the station 5 or 6 times since the opening episode.
     
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  22. LetItSoak

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    Isn't it like 72 hours since the murders?
     
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  23. Biship

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    It was day 7 of night last ep I think
     
  24. TC

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    The ancient Athenians said a proper drama is confined to the events of one day
     
  25. chuckmasterflex

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    It was driving me crazy that Jodie Foster trying to find details of the video on her little phone. This is a monitor situation if I’ve ever seen one.
     
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    New episode is out
     
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  27. Goose

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    I was not expecting that
     
  28. Line 4 Guy

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    Shit got ramped up this episode.
     
  29. London Humphreys

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  30. Sportfan

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    That escalated quickly
     
  31. Sportfan

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    Also the correct deduction is Hank killed Wheeler, not Liz/Navarro right? That was the only part I still wasn’t 100% on.
     
  32. Pelican

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    I’m not in love with the season as a whole, but that was a good episode.
     
  33. Pelican

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    That’s not how I interpreted things but I could’ve missed something. I got a bit confused when she was explaining things to Prior in her office. Need to go back and rewatch that scene.

    I get that the photos were flipped and it’s a lefty vs righty thing but I’m not totally sure what they were getting at with the wife. I know the main point was that Wheeler himself was obv killed by someone else but not sure why the wife’s photos were flipped.
     
  34. electronic

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    I took it that Wheeler wasn't actually abusing her, but who knows.
     
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  35. Pelican

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    Listening to the official pod and

    Hank’s finger wasn’t even on the trigger. It was basically a cop going out via suicide by cop.
     
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  36. Hoss Bonaventure

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    That’s some good Eagle Eye Cherry cover
     
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  37. NYGator

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    Not sure why we are spoilering these. The show is out.

    If the photos were flipped than Wheeler did abuse her with his left hand (punches). I thought the point was that his self-inflicted gunshot wound was on the right side, and if he was a lefty he would have shot himself in the left side. The photos were flipped to make it consistent, but I am not sure who flipped the photos, although I am assuming it was Navarro/Liz.

    Pete asked Liz if he knew Wheeler was a lefty and she said no. I assumed that to mean did she know in that moment when they went to the crime scene and shot him out of anger and not does she know right now. Remember she said she was only there 3 times and Pete, said no, you were there 10 times. They were likely super emotionally charged as we saw in the scene and acted out of frustration and anger. I feel Navarro pulled the trigger, but I could be wrong. It could have been Liz. I actually found that weird that the implication from Pete and Connelly is that they both shot him.
     
  38. Goose

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    I don't really understand the Wheeler part but given what happened at the end of the episode I don't think it matters anymore
     
  39. electronic

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    Yeah, I'm not sure my takeaway makes sense, but they showed a picture of the girl with bruises on her face in a high school picture, which makes me think that the abuser wasn't Wheeler.
     
  40. NYGator

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    BTW, excellent episode and Pete is quietly stealing the show as the best detective.
     
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  41. Brandon Chicken

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    I don’t think so. The point of the high school photo was to show that her mole or birth mark or whatever was on the right side of her face. It’s how he figured out they flipped the pictures. They knew Wheeler was abusing her and killed him and covered it up. Or tried to.
     
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  42. electronic

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    Scene at the end between Prior and Danvers discussing cleaning up his father's body was fucking incredible acting. You could see in Danvers' face that she knew she was ruining Prior's life, but there was no alternative.
     
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  43. electronic

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    Ahh. That would make sense. I thought that photo had bruises as well, but maybe that was just a birth mark.
     
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  44. Sportfan

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    But Hank was on Pete’s computer after Pete looked up the Wheeler situation? Then Hank reveals he moved her body. Idk I need to find a good online explainer so I can move on.

    This episode was super good and I think it points to how unnecessary the over the top supernatural stuff has been. It barely existed in this ep and the setting + storylines are more than good enough on their own. It muddies everything up imo and doesn’t add anything.
     
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  45. NYGator

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    The one thing I can't figure out is why was Pete even looking into it in the first place and why did Hank go on his laptop.
     
  46. Pelican

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    Might simply be because of what you said earlier.
     
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  47. NYGator

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    Right but why was he looking at that case and how long has even been a cop for? They keep talking about him as the freshman so I assume not very long.
     
  48. Aussie

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    Best episode of the season by a mile.

    I'm guessing he was looking into that case out of jealousy. He was becoming Danvers go to and then she puts him on the back burner for Navarro without an explanation.
     
  49. electronic

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    He was looking at that case to see why Danvers and Navarro stopped working together.
     
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  50. NYGator

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    That would make sense. YOu are guessing that though, right? There wasn't something that alluded to it, was there?