Overwatch - OverWatch 2 coming #SOON

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  1. Odin

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    um, no

    everything would turn into 1 lucio and 5 of something else

    should have stopped reading at "Zenyatta will continue to never see play". dude is currently the 2nd most used support. author clearly doesnt play the game
     
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  2. Hoss Bonaventure

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    Just picked it up.
     
  3. Hoss Bonaventure

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    Ok I'm digging this
     
  4. Gin Buckets

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    1 Lucio and 5 other characters or OW itself?
     
  5. Gin Buckets

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    Interesting article with graphs and stuff.... (Btw, I really hope they don't nerf Lucio)

    https://www.overbuff.com/blog/2016-08-11-overwatch-hero-tier-list-and-meta-report-don-t-panic

    Tl;dr:
    "If I were the coach of a professional team, I’d be yelling at my players to give me more, More, MORE! The Meta is quickly trending towards Offensive Deathballs – teams need to stop trying to force McCree and Reinhardt on offense and fill these slots with two of D.Va, Winston, Genji, or Tracer. I would also try out a few triple-support offenses with Ana, just to see if there was anything actually significant about the slight positive differential in offensive win shares. On Defense, I would caution my team to stop using Roadhog and Reinhardt as often – instead rolling with a Zarya or Winston. McCrees should be added liberally to most of their Defenses, except in specific maps or situations where his lack of vertical mobility could be a major hindrance."

    Overwatch Hero Tier List and Meta Report: Don't Panic.
    By CaptainPlanet on August 11th 2016
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    HERE . The data is now presented as separate sheets for each Map, for better and more detailed tracking. A Summary Sheet can also be found HERE but its much less pretty. REMINDER: This Data was collected from the Eleague Qualifiers Week 2 (NA + EU), where 1 Hero Limit, and Stopwatch Format was used for Payload Maps

    [paste:font size="6"]Click this link for Overall

    Or this link for Offense/Defense/KotH Breakdown

    [paste:font size="5"]A WORRYING TREND

    Last week, I speculated that I had accidentally caught the F Tier in a strange spot. This week, it appears that this conclusion was wrong. Zenyatta and Lucio have appeared in essentially every lineup both this and last week, leaving only four slots for other Heroes to fill. Lineups have room for two DPS, and currently these slots are filled by a rotating cast of Genji, McCree, Reaper, and Tracer only. Most teams would have at least one tank, maybe two, so that leaves 1-2 slots left for the remaining 18 or so Heroes – leading to the “F Tier-pocalypse” we see today.

    My data last week only encompassed the Faceit Eleague qualifiers played on the weekend and there was some evidence during the week that indeed, there was some Meta recovery. By this I mean that Pharah-Mercy duos were popping up from time to time in ESL’s Battle for the Atlantic finals during the week this week – a phenomenon I predicted would occur as more teams swapped to Tracer instead of McCree as their primary damage dealer. Now, with a fresh weekend’s set of Eleague data, it appears that it was ESL that was exhibiting a transitionary Meta – or at least that the Pharah-Mercy usage reports were anecdotal at best. For two weeks now – since the minor changes to McCree and Ana – the Meta has featured the highest number of F Tier Heroes since I started doing these reports back in closed beta.

    A GRAIN OF SALT
    This is cause for some alarm, but an alarm that must be taken with a grain of salt. My data is based on usage rates – time played on Heroes divided by total time available – and represents the decisions of players at the very top of the Overwatch food chain. Just because a single week (or a few weeks) of data placed Heroes like Pharah, Mercy, Soldier 76 and the rest in the F Tier does not mean that these Heroes are objectively “bad”. They simply are not being played very much at the highest levels. There could be several reasons for this. Perhaps the current Meta forces them out of their lineup slots due to particularly strong abilities or the speed of engagements, as is this case for Mercy, Ana, and Solder 76. Perhaps they’re effective, but only for extremely specific areas of maps like Junkrat – so their overall numbers suffer.

    Usage rates often fail to tell the whole story as individual weekly snapshots, which is often the place from which I draw most of my “written” content. Usage rates gain significance when looked at through the lens of many weeks of data or when paired with balance changes, and even then only long-standing trends should be looked at with any concern. The F Tier Heroes presently fall into two categories: Heroes that have consistently been stuck at low usage for many weeks independent of balance updates (Bastion, Torbjorn, Hanzo…the “Defense” Heroes), and Heroes whose fall can be traced to the Ana Release changes (Soldier, Pharah, Mercy, etc.). The former are the ones who are truly “weak”, truly “underpowered”, as their low usage has persisted through several different Overwatch Metas. The latter are a product of the current Meta, and still have a decent (subjective) power level – they are just ill-fitting to the present state of the game.

    MOVING FORWARD
    With this in mind, it is important to not overreact to Heroes like Pharah, Soldier, Mercy, or even Ana accounting for significant parts of the F Tier just yet. These Heroes at least have a history of being Meta-relevant, and their power level has not decreased drastically. They simply lie just slightly below the strength of Meta-relevant Heroes, and “pros being pros” have optimized them out of existence. Minor changes either to these Heroes or the Heroes that have crowded them out of their lineup slots could easily result in the dawn of a new Meta. The Defense Heroes, on the other hand, seem to be in need of more significant help. All things considered, it has been very rare that significant changes to the Meta have occurred without Blizzard intervention since the adoption of the 1 Hero Limit format, so it may all come down to Jeff Kaplan and crew to make a decision with the data and feedback we as the community can provide.

    Competitive Overwatch Beta Twitch Directory! This Directory features all of the Twitch Streams and Social Media of as many of the people who helped make the Beta Competitive Scene great that I could find. Get out there and give these people a Follow – without them there would be no Competitive Scene and no Overwatch Hero Meta Report. This week I will also be doing a “Meet the Players” article highlighting the best players from Overwatch’s Competitive Scene who received nominations for the Overwatch World Cup! If you’re super hyped about BlizzCon’s premier Overwatch Event, and want to support your country’s best and brightest, I suggest you give it a look. I will make [this link]() live as soon as the voting opens tomorrow!

    Until next time,

    CAPTAINPLANET
     
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  6. Hoss Bonaventure

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    Haven't used him yet. I like Roadhog and Phara the best so far. Went 10-0 with Roadhog.
     
  7. Odin

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    Thoughts so far?
     
  8. Hoss Bonaventure

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    I like it. Just used healers and did really well
     
  9. Hoss Bonaventure

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    i like being an attacker but everyone chooses them in public so I'm always a tank or healer.
     
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  10. Hoss Bonaventure

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    Aaannddd ive figured out its pretty miserable to try and play public. I have 7 days to return it so if it's like this I may end up taking it back for something else.
     
  11. Odin

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    just get to 25 so you don't have to play public solo

    public in a group isn't bad at all
     
  12. skiedfrillet

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    do i want to buy this game
     
  13. Super Vegeta

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  14. Hoss Bonaventure

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    It's fun
     
  15. skiedfrillet

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    is it a lot like tf2?
     
  16. Super Vegeta

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    A bit. Larger variety of heroes to choose from; way more team oriented.

    If you're playing on xbone we have a good sized crew that play.
     
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  17. Hoss Bonaventure

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    Well, I like this game but got a leaver penalty because I guess I get kicked due to inactivity because I can only play like a game before I have to do something else so I'm taking it back Monday because I guess you have to be able to play 20 straight games to get it off and I'll never be able to even play 5 straight games. How do they expect you to take a piss or let your dog out or eat or any number of possible things?
     
  18. Boom TittyMilk

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    Quit once the game ends?
     
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  19. Odin

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    You dont have to play 20 for it to go away.

    But yeah, thats the biggest problem. Not enough time between post game stats and the next match. Even 15 seconds of inactivity gets you kicked. Like, damn, this is fucking public matches. Who gives a shit. I get it in ranked but not pubs.
     
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  20. Hoss Bonaventure

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    So it even gives it to you if you leave between matches is what I'm reading too. That's messed up.
     
  21. Hoss Bonaventure

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    Really liking D. VA now. I like defending the most I think.
     
  22. Odin

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    Its a percentage of matches complete over your last 20 played thing. As long as you leave between victory/defeat and the end of the assemble team phase of the next match it does count as a game played.

    So, if youre like me and want to vote on shit and look at stats you have about 30 seconds to leave a match. Frankly, i don't even have enough time to look at stats. Not cool. Just slow the shit down a bit, it's not a race.
     
  23. Hoss Bonaventure

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    Who all else is PS4 crew? I'm getting hooked on this shit but I can see how having an actual team would be much more enjoyable.
     
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  24. Odin

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    i know RescueWho??? plays but i don't know of another. lazytweaker says he's buying soon. most of the people i play with i know irl. we might have a few that i'm not friends with, i don't know.
     
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  25. Odin

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    also Jean-Ralphio plays i think
     
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  26. Hoss Bonaventure

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    Well hit me up if y'all get on. I don't mind running as whatever. Been using soldier 76 the past few matches. Holy shit that guy does some damage.
     
  27. Odin

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    yeah, i pretty much only play heals or tank. sometimes i'll mix in a genji or tracer if heals and tanks are good and dps is low or a bastion when attacking on payload maps.
     
  28. Jean-Ralphio

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    I do, id love to play with some of you guys, but being in europe and going to bed before midnight on most nights will probably limit that.
     
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  30. superfly0212

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    i still have never played. it looks fun though
     
  31. Hoss Bonaventure

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    It's really fun. It was weird at first but it's gotten much more enjoyable.
     
  32. fuxstockings

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    Anyone know how quick play matchmaking works? It seems like for the past 10 levels or so (I'm 110) every game has been significantly sweatier than before. When I was lower leveled there were always a couple of 100+ers playing with us but now every game I play I'm lucky if there's someone in the 90's. It makes for very competitive games but it's hard to fuck around with and learn different characters without getting steamrolled. I pretty much have to play Zen, Zarya, Solider, DVa or Lucio every game. Is there a built in elo system or something?
     
  33. superfly0212

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    maybe i'll download it tonight then.
     
  34. Odin

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    Do you like the fps genre? Yes
    Do you like blizzard? Yes
    You will love overwatch.
     
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  35. superfly0212

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    it's downloading
     
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  36. Odin

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    itshappening.gif
     
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    Feel free to shoot me an invite Hoss Bonaventure
     
  38. Hoss Bonaventure

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    I think I'm friends with you already. JHawk38
     
  39. TrustyPatches

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    I've aquired

    Hmu ps bros.

    itzSobuh
     
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  40. Jean-Ralphio

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    Add me: DJ-Essen
     
  41. Odin

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  43. TrustyPatches

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    I hate I can't sprint, and I have the same problem with mid match time as you do... That being said, it's incredibly fun when you get into these constant engagements around objectives, especially if you're in there making plays. I'm pretty bad now and I got a lot to learn, and don't know how long I can play with randos, but I think the better I get, the more I'm gonna really enjoy it.
     
  44. Odin

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    yeah, no sprint is really weird but you get used to it. kind of. or you just start playing with only heroes that have movement abilities. either way.
     
  45. TrustyPatches

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    This is game is so frustrating when you have teammates who don't understand how it works. But on the flip side, it is tremendous fun when you have teammates who do.
     
  46. Odin

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    played a match with 5 d.vas and a lucio last night. quick win. played one today with a lucio and 5 attackers. quick loss. i don't get everyone's need to play attacker or hanzo. so annoying.
     
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  47. Hoss Bonaventure

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    Played with 4 soldier 76's
     
  48. Odin

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    at least he has an aoe heal
     
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  50. Gin Buckets

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    I didn't know this. Just PC?

    Hanzo guy is the worst.

    Also... Looks like Mei is getting a buff, and the Zenny discord being nerfed. If this Mei ult goes through shields and has bigger territory it could mean team wipes, in which case I wouldn't be shocked to see her used regularly in pro comps.