I don’t know shit about boxing, but how can you call a fight even when one got knocked down 3 times, (and hugged when he wasn’t down) vs a guy who never buckles?
It's a 12 round fight that scored round by round. Garcia had 3 rounds with KD's and one of them he had a point deducted. I thought Haney fought well when he wasn't getting beaten up :)
Rounds are scored 10-9 and when a knockdown occurs it's almost always 10-8. If you win enough rounds you can overcome knockdowns and 1 of those knockdowns was essentially cancelled out when Garcia was penalized a point for hitting on the break.
Pacquiao-Marquez 1, Pacquiao knocked Marquez down 3 times in the first round and Marquez recovered to earn a draw. https://boxrec.com/wiki/index.php/Juan_Manuel_Marquez_vs._Manny_Pacquiao_(1st_meeting)
Will never give credit to a fighter that misses weight by that much. They know a day ahead of time when going to miss by 2+ lbs and then essentially stop cutting weight before the weigh-in.
Fucktard MMA guy Ariel Helwani claiming people need to apologize to Garcia is so stupid, he trafficked in qanon shit not stuff to promote the fight.
Coming back to this at least in the 1 instance I didn't think Garcia had truly turned his back and the body shots were legit. The ref had a tough job but I question some of his decisions and consistency of enforcement, the obvious one being Haney receiving 0 deductions for holding after like 50 warnngs.
Posted before this fight but there's just so much delusion among these guys about their true popularity/name recognition. You've gotta be in the ring as much as possible to stay relevant even if it's just a stay busy fight. Guys fighting once or twice a year pretending they're Floyd/Pac is just insane, if you bring in eyeballs maybe you get other tv networks involved even for a stay busy fight and everyone benefits.
Saturday, May 4 T-Mobile Arena, Las Vegas, NV (DAZN PPV / PPV.com / Prime Video PPV) Canelo Alvarez vs Jaime Munguia, super middleweights, 12 rounds, for Canelo’s undisputed championship (WBC, WBA, IBF, and WBO titles) Mario Barrios vs Fabian Maidana, welterweights, 12 rounds, for Barrios’ WBC interim title Brandon Figueroa vs Jessie Magdaleno, featherweights, 12 rounds, for Figueroa’s WBC interim title Eimantas Stanionis vs Gabriel Maestre, welterweights, 12 rounds, for Stanionis’ WBA “world” title Monday, May 6 Tokyo Dome, Tokyo, Japan (ESPN+) Naoya Inoue vs Luis Nery, super bantamweights, 12 rounds, for Inoue’s undisputed championship (WBC, WBA, IBF, and WBO titles) Takuma Inoue vs Sho Ishida, bantamweights, 12 rounds, for Inoue’s WBA title Jason Moloney vs Yoshiki Takei, bantamweights, 12 rounds, for Moloney’s WBO title Seigo Yuri Akui vs Taku Kuwahara, flyweights, 12 rounds, for Akui’s WBA title Saturday, May 11 RAC Arena, Perth, Western Australia, Australia (ESPN+ / ESPN) Card takes place on May 12 in Australia, will air May 11 in the U.S. Vasiliy Lomachenko vs George Kambosos Jr, lightweights, 12 rounds, for vacant IBF title Andrew Moloney vs Pedro Guevara, super flyweights, 12 rounds, for interim WBC title Nina Hughes vs Cherneka Johnson, bantamweights, 10 rounds, for Hughes’ WBA title Saturday, May 18 Riyadh, Saudi Arabia (DAZN PPV / ESPN+ PPV / PPV.com) Tyson Fury vs Oleksandr Usyk, heavyweights, 12 rounds, for undisputed championship (Fury’s WBC title and Usyk’s WBA, IBF, and WBO titles) Jai Opetaia vs Mairis Briedis, rematch, cruiserweights, 12 rounds, for vacant IBF title Frank Sanchez vs Agit Kabayel, heavyweights, 12 rounds Joe Cordina vs Anthony Cacace, super featherweights, 12 rounds, for Cordina’s IBF title Saturday, June 1 Riyadh, Saudi Arabia (ESPN+) Artur Beterbiev vs Dmitry Bivol, light heavyweights, 12 rounds, for undisputed championship (Beterbiev’s WBC, IBF, and WBO titles and Bivol’s WBA title) Riyadh, Saudi Arabia (DAZN PPV) Deontay Wilder vs Zhilei Zhang, heavyweights, 12 rounds Daniel Dubois vs Filip Hrgovic, heavyweights, 12 rounds Raymond Ford vs Nick Ball, featherweights, 12 rounds, for Ford’s WBA title Hamzah Sheeraz vs Austin “Ammo” Williams, middleweights, 10 or 12 rounds Craig Richards vs Willy Hutchinson, light heavyweights, 10 or 12 rounds Sergey Kovalev vs Robin Sirwan Safar, cruiserweights, 10 rounds
I’ve been drinking so I probably won’t be able to get my point across but as someone who isn’t religious it all comes off the same. Saying “Allah” every other word is no different than Garcia saying “god” blah blah
every round is an island. It’s not cumulative. Clearly winning 3 rounds doesn’t mean you won the other 9.
It's just so disingenous and occurs across all religions/sports/spectrums. For an example Mayweather is a toxic as fuck misogynist with kids from multiple women in no way is he "faithful" to whatever. Some guys hit the lottery in terms of athletic ability there was never some great plan by God.
They all had Garcia winning the 12th? I've had plenty not the best judge but seemed like he ran most of the round iirc?
Know anything can happen in boxing but god damn woke up and still can’t believe whatever the hell that was from Devin and Bill. Thought he was much better defensively. The shot he took on the first knock down looked like a low level pro trying to defend himself. What a weird and wild performance
Haney has been hurt before so I guess it shouldn't have been a surprise. Guess he's just not nearly an elite level which I had my doubts anyway because Garcia didn't seen to take training seriously and easily beat him and prob could have knocked him out
For sure, kind of forgot about the times Haney has been rocked and how they landed. Once those middle rounds started last night you could tell anything that Haney landed didn’t faze Ryan at all. No real threat of power behind Devin.
I argue bavk and forth all the time at the cigar shop about Shakur>Haney. But based on resume you had to put Haney high up there
He's a strange fighter for me. I've never been overly impressed with him but he's got some nice wins on his record and title holder in two classes with being undisputed in one of those
Dan Rafael is letting disliking Garcia personally get to him, had a weekend long meltdown trying to discredit the performance. dorks like him is why the sport is at niche status
I don’t follow DR on anything so idk the context but if anyone was a victim of corruption during that fight it was Garcia. So I don’t know how you can be anti Garcia and anti corruption in this situation.
re the scoring and knockdowns the timing of them matters..it is different if the knockdowns happened early then Haney completely schooled him rounds 5-12 but that isn’t what happened . Fight got in a lull around rounds 3-6 then 7-11 it was clear w the knockdowns and just Haney’s body language that he was defeated. idk how Dan can see that and give Haney the win on his scorecard
Sorta wonder what happens with Crawford. He's really out of people to fight. The guy who was supposed to be his toughest challenge he absolutely dominated.
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