Your math is off my friend. Kelly would have to go 41-2 (omitting Holtz's two ties) to equal his win percentage. Dan Devine would have to go 6-14 to equal Kelly's. Kelly at Notre Dame is basically Bo Pelini with a bit more volatility (both in types of seasons and temperament).
Why the fuck do we care about this? We appeal, likely win, and move on. That's not defense of Kelly, it's just reality. Who gives a fuck.
Thread sucks because nd and Kelly suck, what do you expect people to do when nd is 4-7 and about to get their ass kicked by sc with a coach on his 7th year?
Q. From a standpoint of Brian Kelly, what culpability do you feel like the head coach had in that whole scenario? BRIAN KELLY: Zero. None. Absolutely none. http://www.asapsports.com/show_conference.php?id=125683
the repetition in here feels like Westworld, and AATC is The Man In Black. And I'm Dolores, just raped and beaten daily
you listen to my podcast? at least thats good. Also what the fuck do you expect? nd sucks and needs a new coach. most of the complaining is also because we all know bk wont get fired and that sucks.
http://www.indystar.com/story/sport...ch-does-notre-dame-like-brian-kelly/94288012/ doyel has hated BK since he bullied him at a press conference after the pitt game a long time ago but damn
That's a bad article. The school knew about the actions for two years, if it wasn't a fireable offense in August of 2014 it shouldn't be just because some dumbass arbitrary ruling by the NCAA.
Your delusion knows no bounds!!! You are a fan of ND which once was a great program with unparalleled history. If ND had just a above average coach they wouldn't lose to Tulsa, USF, Navy! Northwestern, Hoke, Kiffin, Sark, RR, Duke, etc. Killy was thought to be a upgrade to TY, Weis and Davies but the numbers are proving he is at best a slight upgrade but offset by being a pos human As a person that loathes the ND fan base I love Killy as he has done nothing but disappoint the ND fan base but as a college football fan it disappoints me that ND is a marginal program because of KIlly. College football is much better when programs like USC, ND, Bama, OSU etc are competing at a high level, just more excitement and controversy.
The poor results on the field — the seven-loss debacle of a season — are nothing compared with the embarrassment and shame Brian Kelly just brought on Notre Dame. Kelly refused to accept any responsibility Tuesday for NCAA violations that resulted in the Irish being stripped of 21 victories from the 2012 and 2013 seasons. The 12-1 record in 2012 that included a trip to the BCS title game, easily the high point of Kelly’s contentious tenure, is now vanished. And right along with it Notre Dame’s moral high ground. USA TODAY Notre Dame must vacate football wins after academic violations by trainer Notre Dame has always prided itself on being different, a cut above the college athletics world that, let’s be frank, sometimes looks more like a cesspool. It only recruited players of the highest quality, their character as sterling as their talent. Its coaches were the role models for doing things the right way, refusing to compromise their ethics for a couple of extra wins. Turns out, Notre Dame’s principles are every bit as malleable as the Miamis, the Auburns and all those other schools it’s looked down upon over the years. It’s true that Kelly did not have any direct involvement in the violations. The NCAA Division I Committee on Infractions found that a student-trainer had violated NCAA rules by committing academic misconduct for two football players and providing six others with impermissible extra academic benefits. “It was student-on-student cheating,” Kelly said. “This matter has nothing to do with me and my status here.” Wrong. As head coach, it is Kelly's job to know everything that’s going on with his team, the good and the bad. Maybe Kelly wouldn’t have first-hand knowledge. But when a team is this high profile, on a campus as insulated as Notre Dame’s, it’s implausible to think people didn’t know about the shadiness. If he or his assistants didn’t hear the whispers and the rumors, it’s because they didn’t want to. If you want to take credit when the going is good, then you’d better be prepared to accept the blame when things go wrong, too. And that, even more than his team’s woeful record, will be Kelly’s undoing. He’s had no problem throwing others under the bus when things have gone wrong – you could make a YouTube video of his sideline tantrums alone – and had the audacity to preach about the need for accountability when he disciplined six players who were arrested before the season. “You want them to enjoy their time here, but they've got to make good decisions,” Kelly said in a radio interview after the August arrests. “And then if they don't, hold them accountable for it, and we certainly have done that." Yet Kelly has shown time and again that his standards don’t apply to him. When a video tower collapsed in October 2010, killing a Notre Dame student who was taping practice, Kelly defended his decision to practice outdoors that day by saying conditions “were not unlike many days that I had practiced.” I lived in South Bend for 3½ years and I can say with total certitude that winds gusting up to 53 mph are not typical. When Lizzy Seeberg committed suicide in September 2010 after accusing linebacker Prince Shembo of sexual assault, Kelly was one of several university administrators who tried to sweep it under the rug. Compared to those two incidents, the NCAA violations are minor. But it fits the pattern: Nothing is ever Brian Kelly’s fault. The role of a college coach is twofold: Win games and try to set a good example for the young men he’s molding. In both cases, Brian Kelly is failing miserably. Follow USA TODAY Sports columnist Nancy Armour on Twitter @nrarmour
Turns out, Notre Dame’s principles are every bit as malleable as the Miamis, the Auburns and all those other schools it’s looked down upon over the years. Uhh...what? This isn't even in the same universe as what they did.
That's a pretty bad article based on a lot of bullshit. Not too surprising, Kelly is weak now so it's time for these journalists to take their best shot.
Purdue should hire Brian Kelly. It's a win-win-win for all parties. --- Notre Dame solves their Brian Kelly problem --- Kelly escapes the shame of being fired by Notre Dame --- Purdue gets a coach who, despite his recent struggles, is still better than the last two Purdue coaches --- Purdue gets a coach with extensive experience coaching/recruiting in the IN/OH/MI region --- Purdue had its greatest recent success with a coach who threw 75% of the time --- a scissor lift falling over and killing a Purdue student isn't a tragedy. It's an engineering problem.
I don't understand your question. Are you saying the NCAA came down harder on ND than they would another school for the same offense?
Yes, Boobacar cissoko stayed eligible at Michigan until he decided to call himself a pizza and jump the delivery guy.
Boubacar Cissoko had other people do his course work for him? He was a total shithead so maybe that story got passed me, but I don't recall it.
UNC case? Again though. We fucked up. We should just take it and can Kelly. I want that more than anything. But this is another case of NCAA inconsistency if you look at the UNC case. I really don't give a shit though because our punishment is literally nothing.
That's a pretty convenient stance coming from a fan of a university that barely requires it's athletes to go to school. And you misremembered a few 0's in your "handshakes" there chief.
I don't know why. It's just northwestern. I guess there's conference pride, but whatever. Up 4 at the under 12 timeout. Gonna come down to the wire