Re: oac001's Yahoo TMB 2nd Year Keeper League (updated 1st post) Did this ever get addressed? Seems like it should be the rule. Thoughts?
Re: oac001's Yahoo TMB 3rd Year Keeper League (updated 1st post) Completely? So the previous year round kept doesn't matter at all?
Re: oac001's Yahoo TMB 3rd Year Keeper League (updated 1st post) Only if you're keeping a prior year's keeper.
Re: oac001's Yahoo TMB 3rd Year Keeper League (updated 1st post) Ok that is what I was asking. Like what oac asked: If a player is kept for the 2nd year and his previous year keeper round is higher (as in 1st is higher than 2nd) than his ADP, do we use that instead? Basically we would use whichever is higher: ADP or previous keeper round. It makes the most sense, but I didn't see anything in here directly responding to that and Stinky's answer seems to not jive with that, so just want to make sure I (we) know which way it is.
Re: oac001's Yahoo TMB 3rd Year Keeper League (updated 1st post) My impression is that a second year keeper gets the previous year's ADP, regardless of circumstance. For example, (and I'm making these numbers up) - if you kept Arod 2 years ago (as a 1st round pick), and want to keep him this year as well, he will count as his ADP from last year, even though it's lower than the original round in which he was drafted. The inverse is true as well. If you kept Joey Votto 2 years ago as a 12th round pick, and want to keep him this year as well, he will count as his ADP from last year, and he would be a ~2nd round pick, even though it's much higher than the original round in which he was drafted. Anybody can correct me if this is incorrect.
Re: oac001's Yahoo TMB 3rd Year Keeper League (updated 1st post) Ok that works. I have always done it the way oac recommended, but just wanted to know if that was ever discussed/decided past him posing the question.
Re: oac001's Yahoo TMB 3rd Year Keeper League (updated 1st post) Yes, it was discussed and the answer was:
Re: oac001's Yahoo TMB 3rd Year Keeper League (updated 1st post) When do we need to have our keepers in by? Draft day?
Re: oac001's Yahoo TMB 3rd Year Keeper League (updated 1st post) Sup fellas, oac here. Sorry about my absence... complications resulting from betting on the UF/FSU game. w2d is now the commissioner of the league while I figure out the status of my original account. Last season, yahoo provided a partial transactions list which showed all the trades so from there, you could figure out which players were dropped and which players were traded. Don't know why they didn't do it this year. On to business. I have an abundance of pitchers: Felix (3), Ublado (7), Josh Johnson (7), Jonathan Sanchez (12), Morrow (FA), Bumgarner (FA), and Ervin Santana (FA - I drafted him but then dropped him and picked him up later in the season). Pretty sure I'll be keeping Jay Bruce (8) and Pedro Alvarez (FA) but the rest of my offense is pretty pathetic. As for submitting keeper picks, I was thinking they should be in at least 2 days before the draft. Thoughts?
Re: oac001's Yahoo TMB 3rd Year Keeper League (updated 1st post) Definitely agree. Who people are keeping affects others' draft strategies.
Re: oac001's Yahoo TMB 3rd Year Keeper League (updated 1st post) Same. I think 2-3 days is good because really people should examine other teams already and have an idea of who people would keep, so they don't need a lot of time to analyze, but that you want enough time that if someone is busy a day or two they still have time to review final keepers and make adjustments to strategy if need be.
Re: oac001's Yahoo TMB 3rd Year Keeper League (updated 1st post) Eho you ever going to send over a trade?
Re: oac001's Yahoo TMB 3rd Year Keeper League (updated 1st post) I think I'm going to have trouble making trades as I'm looking at 2011 ADPs since position players are so much higher than pitchers, but I'll send you something to get the dialog started.
Re: oac001's Yahoo TMB 3rd Year Keeper League (updated 1st post) need to narrow this list down to 6: 3 - King Felix 7 - Ubaldo Jiminez 7 - Josh Johnson 8 - Jay Bruce 12 - Jonathan Sanchez 24 - Madison Bamgarner 24 - Brandon Morrow 24 - Delmon Young 24 - Pedro Alvarez anyone want either Ubaldo or Josh Johnson as a 7th round keeper?
Re: oac001's Yahoo TMB 3rd Year Keeper League (updated 1st post) i'll be catching up to you guys in the 6th round of the draft. Cabrera, Halladay, Sabathia, Adrian Gonzalez, Greinke are gonna take up my rounds 1-5 CarGo in the 8th.
Re: oac001's Yahoo TMB 3rd Year Keeper League (updated 1st post) I'm with you...i have a 4th round pick and then my draft starts in the 7th.
Re: oac001's Yahoo TMB 3rd Year Keeper League (updated 1st post) I will have my 1st,2nd, 4th, 5th, and 6th
Re: oac001's Yahoo TMB 3rd Year Keeper League (updated 1st post) I think I messed this up. So hopefully this is finally correct. Pujols (1) Kept last year ADP 1.2 Shin-Soo Choo (2) Cliff Lee (5) Kept Last year ADP 52.3 Carlos Marmol (11) Kept Last Year ADP 121.9 Francisco Cordero (12) Kept Last year ADP 137.8 Starlin Castro (free agent, final round) Hopefully this is right and I finally understood it correctly. Also the set draft time should be good for me as well
Re: oac001's Yahoo TMB 3rd Year Keeper League (updated 1st post) less than a week away from the draft. submit your keeper picks by Friday, 3/35 at 9:30PM EST/6:30PM PDT.
Re: oac001's Yahoo TMB 3rd Year Keeper League (updated 1st post) I'll keep Crawford Nelson Cruz Matt Holliday Brian McCann Hanley Tommy Hanson Looks like I'm going to have shitty pitching again. I'll update with their rounds later.
Re: oac001's Yahoo TMB 3rd Year Keeper League (updated 1st post) Will be Keeping Buster Posey- 23rd Brandon Boesch- fa Richie Weeks-11 Gordon Beckham-fa Jon Lester- 7th Chris Yong- 23
Re: oac001's Yahoo TMB 3rd Year Keeper League (updated 1st post) Hanley Ramirez Round 1 Carl Crawford Round 2 Matt Holliday Round 3 (Actual 2nd Round Pick) Brian McCann Round 4 Nelson Cruz Round 5 (Actual 4th Round Pick) Tommy Hanson Round 7 Pretty sure that's right.
Re: oac001's Yahoo TMB 3rd Year Keeper League (updated 1st post) Miguel Cabrera - Round 1 (Actual 2nd) Roy Halladay - Round 2 Adrian Gonzalez - Round 3 Zack Greinke - Round 4 (Actual 3rd) CC Sabathia - Round 5 (Actual 3rd) Carlos Gonzalez - Round 8
Re: oac001's Yahoo TMB 3rd Year Keeper League (updated 1st post) Youkilis 2nd round Heyward 8th round Liriano 16th round Scherzer 17th round Latos 20th round Marcum last round
Re: oac001's Yahoo TMB 3rd Year Keeper League (updated 1st post) Where the fucking fuck does my dumbass find my roster?
Re: oac001's Yahoo TMB 3rd Year Keeper League (updated 1st post) Robinson Cano - 1st (actual 11th) Alex Rodriguez - 2nd (actual 3rd) Clayton Kershaw - 4th (actual 12th) Colby Rasmus - 13th Vernon Wells - 22nd Brett Myers - undrafted I definitely got fucked on the ADP portion.
Re: oac001's Yahoo TMB 3rd Year Keeper League (updated 1st post) A-Rod - 1st round Cano - 4th round Kershaw - 8th round Rasmus - 13th Wells - 22nd Myers - undrafted fixed it for you. we're using last years' ADP for multi-year keepers not this years ADP.
Re: oac001's Yahoo TMB 3rd Year Keeper League (updated 1st post) so you get to keep your 2nd round pick instead of your 8th.
Re: oac001's Yahoo TMB 3rd Year Keeper League (updated 1st post) I'm really interested to see how the non-snaking draft affects the top teams.
Re: oac001's Yahoo TMB 3rd Year Keeper League (updated 1st post) Thanks. At least I was able to keep a full 6 instead of what HurricaneNick gave me last year, although I can't bitch too much with Cano and Kershaw.
Re: oac001's Yahoo TMB 3rd Year Keeper League (updated 1st post) Joe Mauer - 1st David Wright - 2nd Tim Lincecum - 3rd Mariano Rivera - 7th Matt Garza - 9th Alex Rios - 24th I believe this is right
Re: oac001's Yahoo TMB 3rd Year Keeper League (updated 1st post) Rivera is 6th round (61 overall) did you drop Rios early in the season & then pick him back up?
Re: oac001's Yahoo TMB 3rd Year Keeper League (updated 1st post) have at least a tentative list from everyone but oac & jcane. jpripper still needs to add one more.
Re: oac001's Yahoo TMB 3rd Year Keeper League (updated 1st post) Forgot about that. Add: Hunter Pence (24) Wannstache Riders (name will be changed) Keepers Evan Longoria (1) 2010 ADP Joey Votto (3) 2010 ADP David Price (14) Carlos Santana (20) Mike Stanton (24)
Re: oac001's Yahoo TMB 3rd Year Keeper League (updated 1st post) nevermind just looked and saw i had him in 10th. I don't know where I found saw reason to think he wasn't drafted
Re: oac001's Yahoo TMB 3rd Year Keeper League (updated 1st post) felix (3) ubaldo (7) and/or josh johnson (7) - hoping to trade one of the two. but if not, then slot one of them in the 6th round. jay bruce (8) pedro alvarez (FA) delmon young (FA) brandon morrow (FA) let me get back to you on who to drop if i don't manage to trade ubaldo or johnson.
Re: oac001's Yahoo TMB 3rd Year Keeper League (updated 1st post) Ian Kinsler (1) 18.1 Ryan Braun (1) 5.7 Matt Kemp (3) 7.9 Cole Hamels (4) 91.4 Jonathan Papelbon (5) 69.6 Chris Carpenter (18) 41.1
Re: oac001's Yahoo TMB 3rd Year Keeper League (updated 1st post) Kinsler (3) Braun (1) Kemp (2) Hamels (8) Papelbon (6) Carpenter (4)
Re: oac001's Yahoo TMB 3rd Year Keeper League (updated 1st post) Justin Upton (2) Felix Hernandez (3) Josh Johnson (6) Ubaldo Jiminez (7) Jay Bruce (8) Pedro Alvarez (24)
Re: oac001's Yahoo TMB 3rd Year Keeper League (updated 1st post) hey w2d, can you update the first post with: alt14straight Mark Teixeira (1) Justin Morneau (2) Josh Beckett (4) Andrew McCutchen (5) Neftali Feliz (11) Adrián Béltre (12) jpripper Evan Longoria (1) Joey Votto (3) David Price (14) Carlos Santana (20) Hunter Pence (23) Mike Stanton (24) w2d Miguel Cabrera (1) Roy Halladay (2) Adrián González (3) Zack Greinke (4) CC Sabathia (5) Carlos González (8) ochoseis Joe Mauer (1) David Wright (2) Tim Lincecum (3) Mariano Rivera (6) Matt Garza (9) Álex Ríos (10) soulfly Álex Rodríguez (1) Robinson Canó (4) Clayton Kershaw (8) Colby Rasmus (13) Vernon Wells (22) Brett Myers (24) triple-r Albert Pujols (1) Shin-Soo Choo (2) Cliff Lee (5) Carlos Mármol (11) Francisco Cordero (12) Starlin Castro (24) i'll finish posting the other half later...
Re: oac001's Yahoo TMB 3rd Year Keeper League (updated 1st post) Slight adjustment to mine: Keepers Round/ADP Round Loss Pos Pedroia 1st 1st 2nd Tulo 12.8 2nd SS Zimmerman 34.7 3rd 3rd Josh Hamilton 5th 5th OF Domonic Brown FA 23rd OF Gio González FA 24th SP