The veto players are James, Clay, Shelli, Becky, Jackie and Vanessa. Going to be real interesting to see if Vanessa even tries to win the veto and then what she does if she wins. Becky winning the veto would put her in weird spot too. She should definitely throw it.
I haven't watched an episode in two weeks. Sounds like it is getting interesting again, so I think I will watch tonight's episode.
IMO, Johnny Mac's voice sounds a little like actor Bobcat Goldthwait - famous for his roles in the Police Academy movies.
Looking back on it.. That was a terrible move to get Jason out. Take Austin out last week and I don't think James and his crew make that move until later in the game.
I think James makes a similar move. He clearly wanted to take a shot and wasn't looking for justification (looking at you Vanessa) to do it. Taking out Jason was still the right decision. Vanessa, Clay, and Shelli had essentially 8 people playing for HoH (AusTwins, Steve, John, Becky, Clay, Shelli) that they thought they could work with if they got power against 3 (James, Jackie, and Meg) that would possibly target them. Those are good odds, particularly for the crap shoot HoH's. They also thought the AusTwins would be targeted before them.
this. james said it on day 1. he was looking for blood from the start. He was making a big move no matter what
So James said something about being in to Military on Sunday. Has he said anything about that before? First I knew about.
I think once they break up Clay and Shelli she will be next. Don't know if anybody other than James can win on that side though.
I think it's more that Clay and Shelli have totally denied any involvement with Jason going home... And everyone knows they were just as much to blame as Vanessa.
That's why I think putting them together was such a brilliant move. The second one of them lost the other -- specifically Shelli, the better player with the most obvious achilles heel -- they would come completely unhinged.
And Van out played them plain and simple. She immediately threw them under the bus and spread the blame to them. They didn't know she was going to do that and tried to lie and put all of the blame on her but it was too late. Van is playing the best social game thus far.
James played this completely short-sighted, imo. Yes, they are 2 huge targets, but if he would have put up Liz with Shelli, it had the chance to fracture that alliance and maybe send both trios looking for new alliances afterwards. As it stands, he made himself the easiest target of the remaining houseguests. But whatever, it was big move and made things pretty interesting. It just wasn't very smart.
Yeah, I was just really happy to see it happen. Brilliant was an overstatement. Hopefully that alliance can turn the tides. I agree that would have been a little bit better of a move to go Liz and Shelli. I'd personally have rather seen Shelli and Vanessa, but I don't think anyone on the inside actually knows what we know about Van's game. Speaking of Vanessa, her game could have been slightly blown up if Davonne had actually been a poker dealer worth a shit and knew what one of the world's best poker players looked like.
I think Johnny Mac has played the best social game so far. Everyone likes him, and he is only a target for Austin it seems at this point. Vanessa has been the strongest player to date but is in a much more precarious position currently.
james was likely going to be targeted regardless by that side if they had won hoh. I say good move by him.
I think shelli and clay have literally told everybody in that house, "we're the two that had your back more than anybody." They're full of shit and clay's a dumb fuck.
Yep. Don't think I'd be able to hold out until jury house....if he's smart he'll sneak in some titty touch and suck
My girlfriend went on a rant tonight about how men are so untrustworthy and are all cheaters, after she saw clay with Meg. Apparently she thinks clay and Shellie are gonna get married. I fucking hate women.
Oh okay, I thought for a second you were referring to the Bobcat Goldthwait that starred in those other films.
I used to respect meg for her mind, but after that stunt with clay now I only respect her for her boobs.
Shellie is 10 years older and divorced... This is totally a "I have nothing else to do, so why not" move. She was immediately bucketed to the "not-so-serious" list the moment they met each other. That said, I hope he bangs Meg, because it would be awesome.
Shellie may off herself once she gets eliminated and finds outta clay is fucking meg during "their" Ireland trip.
Steve is probably the only person that could blow Vanessa's cover for being a DJ; fortunately for her, she is the best ally he has currently.