2019 Summer Transfer Thread

You think it would be a travesty if Messi rightly won the award?

 

Did I stutter?

 

Well stuttering would fit in with how awful the take is.

 

It’s not my fault I’m over protective of Messi, but it’s just sad that his consistent brilliance leads to his seasons not being fully appreciated :(

 

Junior Firpo to Barca is close to being done

 

He’s tied for the most Ballon D’or’s of all time and is mostly regarded as the best player of all time. Who isn’t appreciating him

 

There is too much Ronaldo vs Messi talk all around, especially during international competitions

 

Maybe if he would quit choking in big matches he would be appreciated more?

 

That’s led to him placing 5th in last year’s Ballon D’or and potentially losing out on this year’s, despite having incredible seasons.

If literally any other top league player put up Messi’s #s along with winning the league they’d be an absolute lock for the award.

 

TBH the Messi Ronaldo talk has largely died down ever since Ronaldo moved to Serie A.

 

He keeps shitting the bed in international competitions and the champions league and that matters.

 

It's as if people realize there is no parity in La Liga...

 

There seemed to be plenty of comments about Messi not being the goat for people when Argentina lost in Copa

 

Messi is clearly the GOAT and it’s why I wish he’d win something in international competition just so the talk would stop.

 

His teams have shit the bed, not him.

 

It’s what I mean when I say he’s held to an unfair standard. Leads the UCL in scoring by a sizable margin, including two goals in each of the knockout ties Barca played, and somehow Barca having no midfield and forgetting to defend at Anfield gets held against him?

 

Do you think he should have won over Modric last year?

 

Did he play at Anfield?

 

Crazy how Ronaldo hasn't had these problems despite playing on a much inferior international team. Maybe Messi just isn't a real leader and his teammates feed off his inability to handle a stressful situation?

 

Messi is clearly still the best player in the world...that doesn’t mean he has the best/most influential season every year though. It’s impossible to deny Virgil’s impact last year though, for club and country.

 

This debate is getting me excited for the season to start

Yea. While Modric was great, he won that because of his teams’ accomplishments, which I don’t agree with.

 

Ronaldo has played on some absolutely stacked Portugal teams.

 

VVD had an amazing year so I won’t be angry if he wins, though of course I think Messi deserves it over him.

 

Being the best player on a team that won the champions league and made the World Cup final absolutely should matter. There are awards for the highest scorer

 

Messi also gets little credit for leading Barca to winning La Liga handily most years. He’s made something that isn’t a formality (considering Real Madrid and Atletico) become so automatic that most people don’t even care.

 

I don’t remember Modric carrying either of those teams on his back or anything. Madrid were a well balanced machine and Rakitic/Perisic were arguably as important for Croatia.

 

I didn’t think it was in dispute that Modric was the best player on both of those teams

 

Don’t really care for the Messi argument because I just don’t care. However if you’re saying Modric wasn’t the reason Croatia was in the final you’re delusional. He absolutely dominated during the World Cup.

 

Kroos, not Messi, was the best player at the 2014 World Cup while we’re at it.

 

I remember him dominating the group stage, the Argentina game especially, but I don’t remember him absolutely dominating the knockout stage and neither did Croatia really.

 

Franck Ribery would probably disagree

 

This going to end with juve backing out and inter paying 75 cents on the dollar toward the end of the window?

 

Well this is an adorable take.

 

That ship has sailed, unfortunately.

 

Modric had no business winning it. Especially when you include the fact that Xavi and Iniesta never did.

 

Please tell me what Xavi and Iniesta never winning has to do with Modric winning?

 

They had better years than Modric did last year.

 

That has no bearing on who had the best year in 2018, though.

 

While this is true, it does show that their great season weren’t recognized because of Messi/Ronaldo and, imo, Modric shouldn’t have been either.

 

Modric didn’t have the best year in 18. He won because Croatia made the finals. Clearly he wasn’t carrying Madrid. Once Ronaldo left they imploded

 

He doesn't want to go to Inter.

 

Yuck

 

Unlike the EPL where as many as two (2) teams could win the title this season

 

Since when? I could see him preferring juve but lukaku has been pushing for a move to inter all summer until maybe a week ago when juve became an option.

 

I thought you were talking about the Dybala end of the deal. He seems intent on staying at Juve despite them being apparently intent on selling him.