School Shooting in Parkland Florida

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  1. Wicket

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    does that stat control for recently purchases guns though?
     
  2. Arkadin

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    I'm sure one of the 200 studies that concluded it did :idk:
     
  3. Wicket

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    ow probably, although there is a lot of junk science out there. Im pretty sure there is also a pretty big correlation between cars out of gas in a garage at home and suicide
     
  4. Arkadin

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    Sure there's junk science but every study that studies violence in the home and gun ownership also concludes it increases suicide, in America
     
  5. TC

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    I don't know if we should be talking about scientific studies done on gun violence...I think those are illegal
     
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  6. Redav

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    Suicides by firearm have high success rates. Every other method for suicide has low success rates.
     
  7. Wicket

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    im not trying to dispute what you are saying. sorry if my comments come across tht way
     
  8. Arkadin

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    I was just talking, didn't think you were arguing
     
  9. Wicket

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    the most succesful approach here in europe is usually jumping in front of an ongoing train.

    THere is a piece of track in the netherlands thats just across from a loonybin and traind drivers are all fucking dreading if their shift brings them on that route apparently
     
  10. TC

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    I was told in Prague the numbers go way up in the winter when people are all seasonally depressed and shit. And people become jaded like dude really, another fucking suicide, I have to get to work you asshole
     
  11. Arkadin

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    Yeah that's the non firearm obsessed world's method. Japan has it bad
     
  12. TC

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    With the amount of fentanyl also flooding our streets no one needs to worry about an easy way to kill themselves
     
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  13. Wicket

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    there its famously cultural though. its kinda what you expected to do to save the honor of your family in certain circumstances (apparently), lithuania is such an interesting outlier because its so far higher than estonia and latvia, countries culturally so similar
     
  14. Arkadin

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    I was talking about the method itself, not just the concept of suicide.

    My uncle's brother lives in Lithuania and from all accounts sounds like somewhere I'd probably want to kill myself
     
  15. Nole96SC

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    Who knew its as simple as Ocular Pat-downs.
     
  16. tjosu

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    Looking at my Representative's info as I'm writing a letter to see what I'm dealing with. Glad to say I didn't vote for this guy. Just for the record, I own multiple firearms and have zero issue saying we need change

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  18. VaxRule

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    This fuckin guy. “In order to protect the second amendment, we must destroy the first.”
     
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  19. Bill the Butcher

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    That second tweet has nothing to do with the first
     
  20. Bruce Wayne

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    People forget that Israel also has compulsory service
     
  21. Wicket

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    I know you are trolling but its scary that there are people who legitimately believe that
     
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  22. BrickTamland

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    1. What about capacity limitation? What’s the data look like on impact of gun related deaths in states like NY and CA who have reduced legal magazine capacities? (AR15 magazines can carry 30 rounds, believe these two states limit them to a capacity of 10.) More than the semi-auto action of an AR15, capacity seems to be the largest contributor to the scale of these attacks.
    2. What is meant when we use the term, “common sense gun laws?” (Don’t know if you used the term, but plenty of us have ITT.) Is there any legislation proposed or being debated currently that falls under this banner?
    3. Is there proposed legislation on the table that will impact the hand gun related deaths as well as these school shooting deaths? Ideally any proposals would have to address both, as the hand gun statistics trump those of rifles.
     
  23. GboroKidd

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    Just saw this doozy on Facebook


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  24. NilesIrish

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    It's made the rounds. It's to dumb to even comment on. It's also factually awful.
     
  25. VaxRule

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    1. [​IMG]
    2. "Common sense" would be saying that if you think background checks for gun sales are important, that they should be required for all gun sales. But we can't even get that most basic law that an overwhelming percentage of America wants.
    3. Thank the activist judges on the Supreme Court for giving us DC v Heller and McDonald v Chicago to prevent these kinds of laws.
     
  26. BrickTamland

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    If “commonsense gun laws” simply means the banning of all person-to-person firearm sales, than I am in support of that.

    Totally fine with all firearm sales going through FFL holders and thus undergoing background checks.
     
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  27. VaxRule

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    And that very simple, very obvious (and honestly likely minimally effective) piece of legislation has been proposed multiple times and republicans have refused to pass it.
     
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  28. Bill the Butcher

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    I'm not. Huckabee is talking about trained people in place to stop mass murders.

    CNN(lol anyone who takes anything they say seriously) is trying to say its about having more gun restrictions. In Israel of all places. No issue with Palestinians having guns. Lol.



    Again, lol.
     
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  29. Bill the Butcher

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    Anyone have numbers on person to person gun transfers resulting in mass murder?
     
  30. VaxRule

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    Ask ISIS
    http://time.com/4768837/isis-gun-shows-firearms-america/
    ISIS Tells Followers It's 'Easy' to Get Firearms From U.S. Gun Shows
     
  31. BrickTamland

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    Just thinking bigger picture, and trying to simplify my frustrations and thoughts: term limits.

    We’re worse off when an individual can be controlled by the industries and PACs through years and years of contributions into representing donor interests and solidifying their re-election. This is done at the expense of elected officials representing the interests of their electorate.

    Those industries and PACs exist on both sides of the aisle, to arguably varying degrees, but they’re not exclusive to just one party. Can’t point a finger at labor unions without pointing the same one at NRA.

    I suppose it’s a function of capitalism and the ability of wealth to influence a democratic republic and steer legislation.
     
  32. VaxRule

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    Term limits don't really help that. There's a learning curve to figure out the job and institutional memory isn't necessarily a bad thing. Term limits just shift more responsibility for decision making to the non-elected institutional support staff and the lobbyists themselves who aren't leaving. A more effective way of limiting the influence of donors is to switch to publicly funded elections.
     
  33. Bill the Butcher

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    Good lord. Lets rely on Time and ISIS. Absolutely no agenda there.

    If that super diligent FBI could track ISIS members buying guns at shows. No numbers just more absolute disingenuous bull shit from a propaganda wing

    Lol, you guys are getting ridiculous now.
     
  34. BrickTamland

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    Term limits and campaign finance reform.

    #BrickTamland2018 (through 2024.)
     
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  36. Arkadin

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    “He was very naïve. He wasn’t dumb, just naïve,” James said.

    He didn’t know how to cook. They had to show him how to use a microwave. He didn’t know how to do his laundry and also had to learn to pick up after himself.




    Cruz had some odd eating habits. He quietly put a chocolate chip cookie in his steak and cheese sandwich. He went to bed around 8 p.m., which wasn’t unusual.
     
  37. BrickTamland

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    Sad. Sounds like those stand-in parents were trying to provide structure and guidance for a kid they recognized really needed it. They’ll never forgive themselves for not preventing the shooting, right or wrong.

    Weren’t there reports that police had been called on this kid thirty-some times last year though?
     
  38. Jack Parkman

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    Believe it was between a period of 3-4 years, which would have been mostly when he lived with his adoptive mother
     
  39. Arkadin

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    Yes. They're full of shit with the ''we had no idea' stuff
     
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  40. BrickTamland

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    Anyone from the doctor thread could back me on this: teenagers don’t get fifth met fractures from “falling on steps.”

    It’s called a boxers fracture for a reason.

    Teenagers lie.
     
  41. Arkadin

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    They very clearly had some worries about him, it says right in the article that one time he wanted to access his weapons and they told him no. They did that for a reason
     
  42. BrickTamland

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    If they even had the slightest clue, cookie into cheesesteak should have set off the alarms in their heads.
     
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  43. blotter

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    So his only lifeskill was murdering lots of people in an efficient manner.. Real bang up job we're doing as a society.
     
  44. skeezy

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    if he landed on his fist, maybe. but thats not how people catch their fall
     
  45. Wicket

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    Actually he is talking about that being the cause of less gun violence. Which was clearly argued against by listing a ton of more plausible causes
     
  46. 941Gator

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    NoleNBlue is this gentleman getting treated fairly at BCJ?
     
  47. VaxRule

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    Bad guys: "Hey, here's a glaringly obvious weakness in your system". Points directly at obvious weakness

    Todd: "lol, that's just what you want us to think."
     
  48. NoleNBlue (Ret.)

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    I'm sure he's got his own room
     
  49. 941Gator

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    you guys should set a bond for him, give someone a chance at payback.