The Marvel Thread (Iron Man 3 Opening Week Is here!)

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  1. Hank Scorpio Globex Corporation, Philanthropist, Supervillain

    my boner has a boner
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  2. MK 3rds Band Dork

  3. wolfpck haters gonna hate

    Why isn't Ed Norton playing the hulk? I forget
  4. hogfan My beard is better than your beard

    Money issue I thought was the biggest concern. He wanted a lot more money than they would pay him.
  5. Babou ocelot

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    and the new trailer is awesome

    really looking forward to this
  6. 514 Boogaloo shrimp and pogo sticks.

  7. Fusiontegra Yeah, but how do you feel about Faulkner?

    :ohholyfuck: at the SFX for Iron Man''s suit removal. Really clean.
  8. MassNole Black Jesus > Jesus

    http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JakeLester/news?a=56206

    Select AMC Theaters To Show All Movies From The Marvel Universe On May 3rd

    [IMG] To promote the release of The Avengers AMC theaters have decided to show all the movies that link in to the superhero team up movie on May 3rd the day before the movie premieres.
    WaylonJones - 3/12/2012
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    Select AMC movie theaters will be hosting an event on May 3rd to celebrate the release of Marvel's The Avengers by screening all five movies that tie in to the film before they debut it at midnight on May 4th. The list will include Iron Man, The Incredible Hulk, Iron Man 2, Thor in 3D, and Captain America: The First Avenger in 3D. The event is being called The Ultimate Marvel Marathon, and the tickets for the event will be $40.


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    As of right now the only cities that have been listed for the event are Boston Massachusetts, Burbank California, Anaheim California, Aventura Florida, New York New York, Paramus New Jersey, Lake Buena Vista Florida, San Francisco California, Lynnwood Washington, and McLean Virginia. Tickets for those cities will go on sale on March 12 at 12:01 A.M. Eastren time (the evening of March 11th) and 9:01 P.M. Pacifistic time on March 11th. The tickets like stated earlier will be priced at $40. To see if a thearter near you is hosting the event head on over to AMC.

    The Avengers stars Robert Downey Jr., Chris Evans, Mark Ruffalo, Chris Hemsworth, Scarlett Johansson, Jeremy Renner, Tom Hiddleston, Stellan Skarsgård , Samuel L. Jackson and will be released in the US on May 4, 2012 and in the UK on April 26, 2012.
  9. hogfan My beard is better than your beard

    Motherofgod.gif
  10. Fusiontegra Yeah, but how do you feel about Faulkner?

    Some of those are really random fucking places.
  11. dump I AM NOT BILLY HAMIUCCI

  12. Hank Scorpio Globex Corporation, Philanthropist, Supervillain

  13. dump I AM NOT BILLY HAMIUCCI

    fuck off nikon
  14. Hank Scorpio Globex Corporation, Philanthropist, Supervillain

  15. Jax Teller New Member

    Just saw the trailer again. Man I can't wait... "We have a Hulk"
  16. 3NolesFan3 Gene Williams is a fucking cunt

    Yeah, I'll just do that in my house.
  17. brahmanknight MC OG, UCF Knights, bacon, vodka, white wemminz

    There will be a lot of nerd on nerd sexing during those marathons.

    Could make for a lot of awkward, infrared sex tapes, and I support that effort.
  18. Illinihockey New Member

    FYI for those of you with kids, Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Hero's season 2 has started
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  19. hogfan My beard is better than your beard

    Yeah watched the 3rd episode this morning with my boys. My youngest is a huge fan of this series.
  20. fsuNizz /nizzbrag

    "Hulk...Smash!"
  21. Spontaneous Cumbustion I <3 boobies

    Wish they would have gotten Ed Norton to play the Hulk. Other then that though looks unreal
  22. Winston Wolfe Lots of cream, Lots of sugar

    Yeah this pisses me off. Fuck Norton for ruining the continuity
  23. Hank Scorpio Globex Corporation, Philanthropist, Supervillain

    don't have kids. i'll be watching that shit.
  24. hogfan My beard is better than your beard

    Its actually one of the better Marvel cartoons I've seen. I watched the new Spider-Man cartoon that comes on just prior to the Avengers and I thought it was ok but not close to the Avengers IMO.
  25. chanman Internet Hundredaire

    This is going to be so good.

    http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/motion-...engers-assembles-the-best-marvel-movie-so-far

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    I've seen the film twice now, and I'm going to do my best to avoid pointless hyperbole in reviewing this.
    Short version: it's tremendous entertainment, confident and complete in a way that none of the Marvel movies so far have been, and I say that as someone who likes the Marvel movies in general. The company makes an incremental leap forward with this movie, and they've set the bar fairly high for themselves in the future. I am pleased and impressed and feel like this more than pays off any emotional investment I made in the movies as they were being released.

    When discussing "The Avengers" as a film, though, there are several ways to approach it. You can look at it as a further evolution of what Joss Whedon does as a writer and director. You can review it based on its place in the Marvel canon overall. You can analyze how it fits into the overall genre of superhero films. I think the only way to place it in the correct context is to approach it from all of those directions, because the film seems to occupy a unique place in pop culture, and considering how big a commercial product it is, there's something sort of revolutionary about its very existence.

    When Joss Whedon was producing "Buffy The Vampire Slayer" and "Angel," I never would have called them out as rehearsals for eventually making "The Avengers," but looking at this film now, with the hindsight of how those shows played out, it's pretty obvious. Each season of "Buffy" was about introducing a new Big Bad, then assembling the team needed to defeat the villain and testing that team's integrity, putting personal pressure of each of them in an effort to find their weaknesses. Eventually, each season would build to a genuinely world-threatening situation, and it would take great personal sacrifice and difficulty for good to save the day. "The Avengers" is built like an entire season of one of his shows, but in two-and-a-half hours and with a budget that he could have never dreamed of during the early days of "Buffy." Whedon came onboard the film after work had already begun on the script, and he shares a co-story credit with Zak Penn, who was the guy Marvel initially hired to help figure out how to bring all these characters together. The final script positively reeks of Whedon, though, and all of his strengths are on display here. The characters are written with a specific ear that makes each of them shine. A great example would be Black Widow, aka Natasha Romanova, aka Scarlett Johansson. In "Iron Man 2," she proved adept enough physically, but she didn't really have a character to play. She was given an attitude, and she did as much with it as anyone could, but by the end of that film, we didn't really know anything about her. By the end of her first scene in "The Avengers," we've learned a ton about her, and she's become far more interesting than I would have imagined.

    Whedon's fondness for pop culture references is on full display here, and instead of sticking out as Whedon writing in Whedon's voice, they're used to underline who these people are, with one particular moment involving Captain America serving as a particularly sharp example of how you can illuminate character with very simple ideas. The film's biggest secret weapon is that it is one of the funniest films you'll see this summer, using humor to punctuate many of the big moments, never undermining the stakes but often helping to modulate the tension that Whedon slowly ratchets up from the very start. Whedon is not afraid to highlight the absurdity inherent to a world where anger turns one man into a giant green monsters, where demigods struggle with sibling rivalry on a global scale, and where the world's biggest spy organization uses a giant flying aircraft carrier in the sky as a base, but he takes it all seriously in all the right ways.

    In the continuity of the Marvel movies, the ones actually produced by the studio as part of their larger world, "The Avengers" is easily the best of the bunch. I wrote a piece last year about the long road the studio took to get to this point, and I think there's been a certain level of quality that the films have reached so far. I've liked things about each of the films, and I've enjoyed the way they've been trying to fit them all together even as they've tried to tell the individual stories. I think they've hobbled themselves a bit at times with their focus on the endgame, but now that I've seen "The Avengers," I'm more than happy to overlook those flaws because I think it's worth it. If it took some weird digressions and some awkward structuring to get Marvel to the point where they could hit the ground running with this movie, then so be it.

    Even if you factor in all the other superhero movies that weren't made by Marvel, this goes on a very short list of the very best of them ever made. Whedon's affection for the conventions of the genre are evident, and he makes every scene feel like a stand-alone lesson in how to treat comic book source material with respect. He grounds things in a real and recognizable world, but he's not afraid to indulge the weirder, pulpier side of things. His comic book world is big enough to include the strangest corners of deep space and the most mundane stretch of New York City street, and it all feels like it works together. Christopher Nolan has been rightfully praised for his work on the Batman films, but he's always made it a point of pride that he has taken the more outrageous elements of that world and twisted them so that they fit into something closer to "reality." Whedon doesn't do that. Instead, he embraces the nature of the world he's creating, and he simply treats it seriously, with respect, and in doing so, he is bound to spur the imaginations of young viewers worldwide.

    Balancing this many big personalities, both in the film and on the set, has got to be difficult, but the film manages it in a way that makes it seem almost easy. Robert Downey Jr. remade his career with his work as Tony Stark, and part of the fun of the way he plays the part is that it's hard to tell where the character stops and the actor begins. Stark doesn't just wear his ego turned all the way up to full volume, he somehow makes it charming. He seems to come by it honestly, and he always tweaks it by revealing the eccentricity and the broken pieces that make up Stark's secret heart. He could easily overwhelm a group movie if given free reign, but Whedon's script manages to integrate Stark into the group quite nicely. I like the way his relationship with Steve Rogers, aka Captain America, is given dimension by the daddy issues that seemed to be jammed into "Iron Man 2" without much conclusion. We saw the relationship between Howard Stark and a young Rogers in "Captain America," and there is just enough reference made to that here to create some real tension between Cap and Iron Man. Chris Evans seems like a totally different person as Captain America than he did when he starred in the "Fantastic Four" films. There's a square-jawed sincerity to his work, and an unironic sense of duty that makes him feel both retro and cutting-edge at the same time. We live in a media age where irony and sarcasm are cheap currency, a constant presence in everything we consume, and Evans deserves credit for shedding that completely and making it feel like such a strong choice.

    Chris Hemsworth continues to impress as Thor, and he finds any number of ways to reveal the human heart of the Thunder God, often making subtle choices in scenes that make Thor feel more real. His relationship with Loki is a powerful drive in the film, and Tom Hiddleston's work as Loki is tremendous. He reveals how much more damaged Loki has become in his exile, and he takes the moustache-twirling villainy of comic books in a very different direction, playing Loki as an open wound, a feral beast with a cultured smile. Meanwhile, both Jeremy Renner and Scarlett Johansson, introduced in small supporting roles in other people's films, both benefit enormously from the way they've been written here. Renner's character spends much of the film under the hypnotic sway of Loki, so we don't really "meet" him until halfway through. Once he's set free, though, his righteous anger gives him a strong motivation to stay at Ground Zero, fighting desperately so that he can score some payback. His connection to Johansson's character is, thankfully, not a romantic one, and it helps make both of them stronger presences in the film.

    I'm a fan of both Ang Lee's "Hulk" and Leterrier's "Incredible Hulk," but both films are flawed in significant ways as well. In general, I'm interested in the different ways each film approaches the Banner/Hulk dynamic and how they use the Hulk once he's introduced. Having said that, neither film makes use of the Hulk as effectively as this one does, and I suspect that Hulk merchandise is going to be the biggest hit with kids this summer. Mark Ruffalo makes Banner into a compelling presence on his own, and even if he never changed, he'd make an interesting contribution to the film. Once he does, though, the Hulk is preposterous fun, and he delivers some of the most amazing beats in the movie. I think the use of SHIELD here is also pretty great, and there is real awe in the way the Helicarrier is revealed. Nick Fury, played by Samuel L. Jackson, finally steps up as the leader he's meant to be, and Jackson feels like he's more engaged here, especially when he gets to jump into the action a bit. Cobie Smulders and Clark Gregg make the most of their scenes, and Gregg is rewarded for his work in the franchise so far with the best overall writing for Agent Coulson that anyone's done, turning him from "that guy who delivers some of the awkward exposition" into an important piece of the overall puzzle.

    The film moves quickly, even at two hours and twenty minutes, and the final set piece is such a triumph, such a marvel (pun fully intended) of plot and character and action, that I'm having a hard time remembering the last blockbuster that satisfied with such confidence. It's one thing to produce mass mayhem that is visually convincing, but this film also manages to build in real emotion. The mayhem matters because these characters believe it matters, and every payoff feels earned, thematically satisfying.

    I have one major complaint, and it's something that would have made the difference between the grade I'm giving the film and the grade I could have given it. Alan Silvestri's score is good here, serving the film well from scene to scene, but the Marvel films in general missed a great opportunity. If they had managed to create a memorable and iconic score for each film, with each character getting a theme of their own that was burnt into the consciousness of the audience, then this film could have been a sonic wonder, with those scores layered on top of each other, playing off one another, doing for the ear what the film does for the heroes. One of the things that makes the "Star Wars" films or the "Indiana Jones" films feel like magic is that they feature music that does more than just cue us emotionally… those scores evoke moments instantly for audiences, and they communicate so much about what you're watching. There's a moment here where Loki is fighting Captain America in Germany, and suddenly AC/DC begins to blare from nearby speakers thanks to Iron Man patching in and playing his own theme music as part of his entrance. It's a very funny moment, but I wish the film could have done this for each of the Avengers, and it feels like the biggest way they dropped the ball.

    If that's my biggest complaint, though, that seems like something that I can live with. There is no reason "The Avengers" should even exist as a movie, and it makes even less sense that it's actually good. It feels like a magic trick, and Joss Whedon's feature film career is going to kick into a whole new gear after this. I hope he stays involved in the Marvel universe on film, though, because no matter how inevitable this film feels, it was anything but. It is impressive on a business level, and from a general comic book fan's perspective, but more than anything, this is pure entertainment, with exceptional contributions from all involved. "The Avengers" may not literally save the world, but they are a definite reminder that you have to aim high and dream big if you want to do something truly special.

  26. pearl Fan of: White wimmens feet

    Fuck they should really step up and make a Justice League movie
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  27. MK 3rds Band Dork

    Nerd boner set to kill.
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  28. hogfan My beard is better than your beard

    Hulk Smash:clap:
  29. IV New Member

    Damn that review was fucking positive as shit
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  30. Beeds07 Youre a pro. Look at me...Pro

    DC just cant get their shit together. I might be one of the few fanboys here but I am halfway hoping the New 52 is the lead-in for a new JL movie.
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  31. chanman Internet Hundredaire

    Marvel runs circles around DC.
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  32. NP13 MC OG

    can't wait.

    i'm also sad panda that Black Widow won't be in Iron Man 3. the very slim chance i had to meet Scarlett just went down by a lot.
  33. pearl Fan of: White wimmens feet

    I like to imagine that Nolan's Batman, the new superman movie and the Green Lantern movie are a prologue to the new JL movie.
  34. MK 3rds Band Dork

    Green Lantern was pretty awful.
  35. pearl Fan of: White wimmens feet

    Don't care, will watch if they have Bale as Batman, whoever the new Superman is and Ryan Renolds as GL.
  36. MK 3rds Band Dork

    Nolan gun keel batman.
  37. pearl Fan of: White wimmens feet

    U shut urr filthy wh0re mouff!
  38. brahmanknight MC OG, UCF Knights, bacon, vodka, white wemminz

    I actually liked the Green Lantern movie.

    No, it wasn't great, but it was still enjoyable.
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  39. Walt Disney 4 8 15 16 23 42

    bump

    pretty pumped

    at a 94 on RT

    8.9 on IMDB which puts it at #26 on the all-time top 250 movies

    edit- If it keeps that 8.9, it would put the Avengers in the top 7
  40. pearl Fan of: White wimmens feet

    The 8.9 is going to drop though. I figure and 8.5 when it's all said and done.
  41. Babou ocelot

    Well you've got to wait for a few thousand :crossedarms: people to get on there and give it a 1/10.

    But I'm really looking forward to seeing it. Got to figure sometime this weekend to go.
  42. SWT ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ || d(o_0)b || ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) || ④

    Sucked pretty bad.
  43. pearl Fan of: White wimmens feet

    What?
  44. mpl92 netflix on your couch

    Bout to see it tonight. Very excite.
  45. DDotGA Leonard likes this post.

    its leaked on movie25.com i refuse to watch it cuz the first time i see it i want it to be in imax
  46. pearl Fan of: White wimmens feet

    Oh don't tempt me
  47. DDotGA Leonard likes this post.

    Battleship is also leaked on that site.
  48. hogfan My beard is better than your beard

    I'm going to watch it Friday night with my kids :chatzy::chatzy::chatzy::chatzy::chatzy:
  49. fsuNizz /nizzbrag

    Ruffalo does a good job as a Banner. Handling that inner fight between him and Hulk. Love the Hulk in this!
  50. Walt Disney 4 8 15 16 23 42

    there's no way this movie can be bad with everybody involved in it IMO

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