**Official SEC Basketball Thread**

Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by Dinkle, Oct 20, 2011.

  1. Croomsday 雹の状態

    dump i'm going to have to ask you to leave this thread until July
  2. Virgil Caine Ole Miss, Braves, Hawks, Falcons

    That's rich coming from a real cripple.
  3. wes tegg SHUT IT DOWN.

    I agree that we've been a piece or two away. Still, I think that we could have been running a better, more efficient offense. We play sloppy basketball and that holds us back. Look at this year, we get in the tournament with two more wins. Look at the first Auburn and Alabama games. In both, we had leads that evaporated because of turnovers and poor clock management (and free throw shooting, but that's outside of this point). The games we won down the stretch were slugfests that certainly weren't won by our offense. Granted, some of those problems did come from not having much of a point guard or a shooter.
  4. Croomsday 雹の状態

    Well I don't know about you guys but I'm about to order my "2012 MSU Basketball: Return To Prohminence" Commemorative T-shirt
  5. ddseli western webel

  6. cheddarisbetter New Member

    sec basketball thread dominated by ole miss and miss st fans in the last couple pages, smh
  7. Virgil Caine Ole Miss, Braves, Hawks, Falcons

    We can't all post about beer and soccer.
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  8. LeonardWashington First Down. Touchdown.

    very talented wouldn't be the words that i would use to describe jason carter
  9. Virgil Caine Ole Miss, Braves, Hawks, Falcons

    That's coming from two D1 coaches, one of which was on staff at Alabama during Carter's lone season. Just quoting them, bro.
  10. Croomsday 雹の状態

    looks like Martin to USCe is a done deal
  11. Virgil Caine Ole Miss, Braves, Hawks, Falcons

    No, it doesn't.
  12. Croomsday 雹の状態

    why not? It's a better program than KSU right? Who wouldn't accept a job there?
  13. Virgil Caine Ole Miss, Braves, Hawks, Falcons

    Not a single credible report says it's happening right now.
  14. LeonardWashington First Down. Touchdown.

    Wrong thread
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  15. Croomsday 雹の状態

    behind the scenes shit Virg
  16. Cornelius Suttree Et in Arcadia ego

    nice win UK fans

    really not too upset, yall were clearly the best team in the nation....and we just put 90 on them in a tournament game, just need to get guys like Perea/Hollowell/Ferrell in to really hang

    wish the refs would have just let them play
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  17. Virgil Caine Ole Miss, Braves, Hawks, Falcons

    My bad. Forgot dinkle had all the sources. :idk:
  18. Croomsday 雹の状態

    dude, Steve Robertson is a GREAT source.
  19. Virgil Caine Ole Miss, Braves, Hawks, Falcons

    LOL. :respek:
  20. Croomsday 雹の状態

    making sure you didnt think i was a *shudder* "Gene's Pager"
  21. kentucky75 New Member

    Congrats on the IU win in December and the Vandy SEC tourney title.
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  22. hogfan My beard is better than your beard

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    Just win the damn championship. My bracket depends on it :laugh:
  23. kentucky75 New Member

    I'm still not sold on this team. :idk:
  24. hogfan My beard is better than your beard

    I think they're the best left. I have Kentucky and Ohio State in the final with Kentucky getting an 87-75 win. I feel dirty writing that :blech:
  25. LeonardWashington First Down. Touchdown.

    [user]Arkadin[/user] is Frank Martin going to S. Carolina or what bro
  26. kentucky75 New Member

    This am a UK reporter is saying it looks very likely.
  27. LeonardWashington First Down. Touchdown.

  28. dumplestiltskin Lover of all things

    Jeff Goodman@GoodmanCBS

    Murray State's Steve Prohm is out of the equation for Mississippi State. He signed an extension to remain with Racers - http://t.co/yO2iJjd7
  29. dumplestiltskin Lover of all things

    Frank Martin to Souf Cack is OFFICIAL
  30. dumplestiltskin Lover of all things

    Bryce Drew to DynkleTown?
  31. Croomsday 雹の状態

    Moultrie announces he will forego his SR season and enter the draft....fuck.
  32. lsufball19 New Member

    that would be hilarious, if nothing more, to have ole miss play the man who made one of the biggest shots ever in the NCAAT, that beat possibly their best team ever, play them twice a year
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  33. Croomsday 雹の状態

    We're announcing him as HC tomorrow :grinch:
  34. dumplestiltskin Lover of all things

    So we get rid of playing one Drew brother and end up playing the other

    Thankfully he cant be a bigger douche
  35. Croomsday 雹の状態

    Report: Valpo’s Bryce Drew interviewed for MSU job

    Brandon Marcello

    Posted on March 28, 2012
    in Men's basketball
    . 0 CommentsTags: bryce drew.

    Valparaiso coach Bryce Drew interviews with Mississippi State in Atlanta on Monday,according to ESPN.com.
    The report, citing unidentified sources, surfaced this morning.
    Drew subsequently backed out of an interview with Tulsa on Tuesday, according to the report. It’s not believed Drew has been offered the job by MSU. It’s also not clear if Drew would accept the job if offered, according to the report.
    Drew, 37, has been a head coach for one year at his alma mater. Valparaiso went 22-12 and won the Horizon League title this season. Bryce Drew took over at Valpo as coach this season after his father, Homer, retired in May of 2011. Drew is the younger brother of Baylor coach Scott Drew.
    Bryce Drew will long be remembered in Mississippi for his buzzer beater against Ole Miss in the NCAA Tournament in 1998.
    Drew’s wife, Tara, also has connections to the state. Her parents operate Ballet Magnificat in Jackson, where she once trained and choreographed shows. Her father, Keith Thibodeaux,played Little Ricky Ricardo on I Love Lucy.
    State’s coaching search hit a couple of bumps in the road this week when Steve Prohm re-upped with Murray State and Ohio’s John Groce entered discussions with Illinois. Prohm and Groce were believed to be MSU’s top targets to replace Rick Stansbury, who retired after 14 seasons on March 15. Wisconsin-Milwaukee’s Rob Jeter also drew interest but is not a serious candidate.
  36. Virgil Caine Ole Miss, Braves, Hawks, Falcons

    Actually, if anything, this is good for Ole Miss.

    Please hire Bryce Drew, State. The guy's been a head coach for one year at a low-major and didn't even get to the NCAAT. Aside from that, he's never coached anywhere but Valpo. Yes, by all means, bring that to the SEC and try to recruit.
  37. Croomsday 雹の状態

    He's going to cheat his ass off like Scott :twocents:
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  38. dumplestiltskin Lover of all things

    All in the family....
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  39. Z Anthony Grant Sucks

    Definitely not a sexy hire for State.
  40. Croomsday 雹の状態


    Kentucky's Death March

    They're going to win. And what happens next will be really bad for college basketball.

    By Chuck Klosterman on March 28, 2012
    entucky might lose this weekend. Better teams than the Wildcats (UNLV in '91, Georgetown in '85, UCLA in '74) have lost in the season's last weekend, and college basketball is built for meaningful, memorable upsets. But if this happens, I will be shocked. I would be less surprised if they beat Louisville by 15 and Kansas by 20. Jayhawk Thomas Robinson is usually described as the best player in the country, but Anthony Davis is already better (and improving in real time, right in front of our eyes). He'll go no. 1 in the NBA draft. Michael Kidd-Gilchrist might be the second pick. Every guy Kentucky puts on the floor looks like some version of a pro: They're all highly skilled and weirdly unselfish. It's not unfair, but it feels that way. So I expect Kentucky to crush everyone. I expect them to win for entirely predictable reasons. But then I will sit in my dark living room on Monday night and wonder: What happens now?

    I'm not going to take any shots at John Calipari, because I'm starting to think he's a pretty decent dude. When CBS interviewed Calipari and Davis the day after the Cats obliterated Indiana in the South Regional, they displayed a rapport that suggests Calipari is simply unlike the vast majority of men who spend their adult lives screaming at 19-year-olds for failing to box out. What makes him different, I suspect, is that he cares about "young people" more than he cares about The Game Of Basketball. And that's a deceptively complex perspective.
    I'm sure every coach in America would claim they care more about their individual players than about the sport itself, because it seems draconian to place a game above a human. Yet part of the lesson of sports (or at least what we always tell children) is that individuals must subjugate themselves to the team — and not just to win, but to show some level of amorphous "respect" for the game itself. I'm not sure I still believe this, or even if I ever believed it at all. But I do know that people who devote their lives to basketball tend to value it in a manner that transcends the involvement of all those who participate temporarily. In the specific, it's easy to view Anthony Davis as more important than a random SEC game; in the abstract, whoever plays power forward for Kentucky is really just another impermanent pawn, contributing to a physical art form that will exist long after the death of everyone reading this column. If you love basketball, part of your mind (conflicted though it may be) needs to recognize and understand that kind of philosophical invention. But Calipari does not think that way, and that's why guys like Bob Knight won't even utter his name in public. Somehow, he's both a good person and an amoral contrarian. He's more important than he probably realizes.
    Calipari has professionalized college sports,1 which is great for him and good for his recruits. It's just discomforting for anyone who likes NCAA basketball, assuming they're drawn to the same game that lives within their memory. He's built awesome teams for seven consecutive seasons, usually by overhauling his entire roster with transitory superstars who are only attending college because there's no reasonable alternative. He's completely up-front about this strategy, and it's irrefutably effective. In his three years at Kentucky, he's never lost a home game. But here's the rub: Every season, something goes wrong at the end — and that validates his critics. While coaching Memphis in the 2008 final, Calipari had the superior squad, but they couldn't make free throws and lost in OT.2At Kentucky in 2010, he had an obscene collection of talent (four of his starters went in the first round of the draft), but they self-destructed in the clutch, just as everyone who hates Calipari always insisted they would.3 It's like there's this indefinable weakness to this system that everyone4 hopes will eventually emerge; somehow, we want to believe that the way Calipari conducts business is intangibly doomed (because that reinforces the traditional view of what team sports are supposed to represent). It's not unlike the way most NBA observers are predisposed to root against the Miami Heat: You should not be able to succeed in this way. You should not be able to arbitrarily construct a Super Team that automatically achieves Super Greatness. It cheapens the experience. It feels cold and uncreative. That's why traditionalists are always relieved when Calipari's template collapses: It suggests there's some inherent flaw to his philosophy that even he cannot see. It balances the system.
    But not this time.

    If Kentucky is simultaneously the most straightforward finishing school for future professionals and the best place to win a national championship, there's no reason for a blue-chip high school senior to go anywhere else.
    It does not appear that Kentucky will lose a game by choking at the line (they made 35 of 37 versus Indiana) or by imploding in the closing minutes (oddly, they inevitably seemmore mature than the veterans they face). They play prison-yard defense and swing the rock. Anything is possible in a single-elimination tournament, but these Wildcats looks less prone to self-induced injury. So let's assume Kentucky succeeds. Let's assume they rampage through their final two games. It will disprove a lot of lingering suspicions about what does (and doesn't) work. It will mean that winning a title with freshmen and sophomores is not only plausible, but logical and inarguable. That realization will knock the system out of balance. Right now, there are always two foolproof arguments against the Calipari ideal — it reflects badly on the university, and it breaks down in moments that matter most. No one is going to emulate a program with a bad reputation if the end result is the same as doing things the way they've always been done. But that argument evaporates the moment Calipari climbs a ladder and cuts a net. If Kentucky is simultaneously the most straightforward finishing school for future professionals and the best place to win a national championship, there's no reason for a blue-chip high school senior to go anywhere else. Calipari will dynastically dominate with a revolving door of sheer horsepower, and the only way other schools will be able to respond is by becoming exactly like him.
    Now, I'm not suggesting that every single college will turn into a clone of Kentucky, because that's impossible. There aren't enough good players in America for that to happen. But Calipari's scheme will become standard at a handful of universities where losing at basketball is unacceptable: North Carolina, Syracuse, Kansas, UCLA, and maybe even Duke. These schools already recruit one-and-done freshmen, but they'll have to go further; they'll have to be as transparent about their motives as Calipari is (because transparency is the obsession of modernity). If they resist, they will fade. And the result will be a radical amplification of what the game has already become: There will be five schools sharing the 25 best players in the country, and all the lesser programs will kill each other for the right to lose to those five schools in the Sweet 16. It will skew the competitive balance of major conferences and split D-I basketball into two completely unequal tiers. Final Four games will look more and more like sloppy pro games, and national interest in college basketball will wane (even if the level of play technically increases).5 In 10 years, it might be a niche sport for people like me — people who can't get over the past.
    Kentucky totally deserves to win. But I sure hope they don't.
  41. lsufball19 New Member

    i don't think it's a great hire or anything, just funny all things considered. have a buddy (ole miss fan) that absolutely loathes bryce drew because of that game in 98, and it would just be funny for me personally to hear him bitch about it.
  42. Virgil Caine Ole Miss, Braves, Hawks, Falcons

    Funny, maybe. But it'd be a bad hire for Mississippi State. In that case, I welcome it.

    ETA: They've basically struck out on any quality candidate so no matter who they hire now is gonna be weak.
  43. TC I play the game wit #LOVE

    Damn that's pretty depressing :ohdear:
  44. LeonardWashington First Down. Touchdown.

  45. dumplestiltskin Lover of all things

    Jeff Drummond@JDrumUK
    RT @cdortch: Word is Bryce Drew to Miss St is a done deal. Good move.
  46. Croomsday 雹の状態

  47. wes tegg SHUT IT DOWN.

    Bryce Drew would be an awesome troll, but an absolutely shit-tier hire.
  48. LeonardWashington First Down. Touchdown.

    if he is willing to drop the bag off that is all that really matters. I mean nobody in America would have hired Rick Stansbury but he did pretty well by State standards

    and given that he is a Drew it is likely that he is more than willing to drop off said bag
  49. Virgil Caine Ole Miss, Braves, Hawks, Falcons

    In so many words, yes, this. ^
  50. wes tegg SHUT IT DOWN.

    But how does that help them? They already had a guy who was cheating to get talent there and they fired him.

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