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  1. Bankz

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    who is we? Are you a twin? Where was the testing data prior to combine, feel free to link it.
     
  2. The Banks

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    He’s 6’3” 215 and runs a 10.67, again why did you expect he would test poorly athletically?
     
  3. Bankz

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    Where was the 10.67 verified? You asked what changed from my stance in February to my stance recently and the answer is verified athletic data. I had none prior to the combine I got it after... It changes all types of shit.

    I had Holyfield as a top RB prior to the combine... Post combine he wasn't draftable. Verified data changes things...
     
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    Keenan Allen and DJ Moore mentoring this should be illegal.
     
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    Terrible feeling in the pit of my stomach this will not age well
     
  6. Bankz

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    My fear was Odunze had red flags like N'Keal Harry based on field data...

    Harry went to the combine and did this....
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    He wasn't a great athlete...

    Odunze did this....



    Different level athlete... clearly. That leads me to believe that the red flag was probably a QB issue. And wasn't as worried.
     
  7. Bankz

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    As Chicago fans... we have been conditioned to feel like this. From Jay Will to Rose, 100+ years of losing from the Cubs, to the entire history of Bears QBs... Expecting good things isn't in a Chicago fans DNA
     
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  8. Mr. Bean

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    My earliest football memories are of sitting in old Soldier field watching Favre and Culpepper disembowel Wannstedts teams. I told a friend yesterday I was a lot more confident in Fields the player (not the supporting cast) on draft nite 2021 than I am in Williams

    On the bright side I think Rome will be a solid Bear and contribute right away
     
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    I’m so much more confident in Williams than I was fields
     
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    It was FAT, what more do you want?
     
  11. Bankz

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    Nothing, my evaluation is over and I'm ok with Rome. You keep going in circles and I'm not sure why.
     
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    Matt Miller was on Parkins and Speilgel and said to keep an eye on Masson Smith @ 75.
     
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    There is a confidence and swag around this team and the fanbase that seems to be growing. I smashed the Over on the 8.5 win total. Let's fucking go
     
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    And of course Olin in the next segment complains the drafted Rome instead of Fashanu.

    (he did say Rome is a hell of a player and he’s excited for him)
     
  16. Mr. Bean

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    DTs flying off the board. Maybe a DE will be there at 75. Would love Adisa Isaac
     
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    Will Haynes/Beebe last? Could see Poles scooping them up.
     
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    Peanut is the pick announcer
     
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    Dorlus is still out there as a DT
     
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    Plenty of good DL/OL left
     
  21. DirtBall

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    Sounds like he played G up until last year. Don’t know anything about him.

     
  22. $P1

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    Feels like a luxury pick when we had holes to fill
     
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    I like it, it makes a lot of sense as a pick if they think he can develop into a starter.
     
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    From the beast:

    STRENGTHS: Outstanding size with elite length and a body/strength profile that can be molded ... clean, efficient movements at the snap, with basketball feet and accurate landmark depth... able to naturally sink his hips and play with bend ... keeps his hands/reach in front of him to maintain distance with pass rushers ... locks on in the run game and drives his feet... runs the chute well from a three-point stance... effective second-level blocker tolocate, fit and finish... intelligent, tough and driven (OL coach Stefon Wheeler: "Just because you're at Yale doesn't mean you have the same acumen for football, but Kiran is absolutely sharp. And he wants to be great.") ... sought out and trained with NFL offensive-line legend Willie Anderson during the 2023 offseason ... started double-digit games at both tackle (14) and guard (10) over his three seasons in college.

    WEAKNESSES: Technical approach has improved but remains a work in progress... still learning how/when to adjust his set points based on the type of rusher he is facing ... needs to keep his guard up versus slow-developing rush moves that lull him into settling his feet... not a polished blocker in terms of angles ... plays physical in the run game but needs to be meaner and impose his will ... suffered a partially torn left quad during practice (October 2023) and required season-ending surgery, which also sidelined him for most of the pre-draft process... inexperienced - played only two seasons of high school football and three seasons of college football (and all of his college reps came versus FCS competition).

    SUMMARY: A three-ye ar starter at Yale, Amegadjie lined up at left tackle the last two seasons in Yale's multiple run scheme. Afternot playing football until midway through high school, he put himself on the NFL radar with his ascending play in the Ivy League, alt hough his season-ending injury in 2023 was disappointing - he missed half of his final season and NFL scouts were unable to see him face better competition at the Senior Bowl. From a size and athletic standpoint, Amegadjie pops on film, because of his rare length, light feet and smooth body control to mirror pass rushers or create momentum as a run blocker. Though he does a great job repositioning his hands and feet, his inexperience is also apparent when it comes to timing and adjustment fundamentals. Overall, Amegadjie is a raw prospect who needs technical and strength work before he sees live NFL reps, but his physical ingredients and competitive drive are the foundational elements that pro coaches want to develop. He projects as a backup left tackle as a rookie who has all the tools to gradually develop into an NFL starter.

    GRADE: 3rd Round (No. 87 overall)
     
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  25. Mr. Bean

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    Developmental project. Trust Ian and Poles on OL projects….
     
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  26. Mr. Bean

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    Greg McElroy said it all on the broadcast. He didn’t have to block anyone at Yale…. Lot of future Morgan Stanley VPs lined up across from him. Cat vs a ball of yarn. With that said he is a good athlete and incredibly long which will make his adjustment to the next level not as hard as other FCS guys
     
  27. GGCD

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    I can't imagine Yale's schedule being much easier than Southern Utah's.
     
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    They’re always drafting meatballs

     
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    Ok Im sold
     
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    Brugler wrote an article about him being “the most intersting draft prospect” a couple months ago:

    “It’s the best of both worlds.”

    That is how Kiran Amegadjie (KUH-ron Ah-meh-gah-G), an ambitious 22-year-old with considerable NFL Draft buzz, describes the balance of Ivy League football and education.

    Growing up just outside of Chicago, Amegadjie always believed football would be his future, but his path has been much different than most. Despite numerous roadblocks along the way, though, he is on pace to be a top-100 draft pick this spring and a Yale graduate this summer.

    Call him underrated or a sleeper — he is both. But as Amegadjie said: “In my opinion, I’m the most interesting prospect in the draft.”

    For as long as he can remember, Amegadjie wanted to play football. He enjoyed watching the NFL and dreamed of one day playing at the highest level. But his parents were unfamiliar with the sport and stressed education.

    His father, Boris, grew up in the West African nation of Togo and played soccer in college in France before moving to the United States to continue his studies. His mother, Gislaine, is from Cameroon in Central Africa and lived in Canada before moving to the States. Boris and Gislaine met at Strayer University in Maryland in 1994.

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    In the summers, when many kids are involved in organized sports, Amegadjie and his twin sister, Maiwen, instead spent time visiting family in Togo. Based purely on accessibility, Kiran adopted basketball as his go-to sport throughout middle school. In the eighth grade, however, he finally put on pads and joined the football team.

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    It didn’t go as planned because of what he called a “bad experience” with a coach.

    “It really deterred me from playing football,” Amegadjie said.

    Amegadjie instead chose to remain focused on basketball after enrolling at Hinsdale Central (Ill.) High School and didn’t play football as a freshman. But at the urging of his friends, he gave the sport another chance as a sophomore and started down an improbable path.

    As a junior, Amegadjie became Hinsdale’s starting left tackle, and over his final two seasons, he helped the team to a combined 16-5 record and two playoff appearances. College coaches started to take notice of his play during his junior year, too. Scholarship offers soon followed. First, it was Indiana State. Then, Southern Illinois.

    Amegadjie finished with 22 offers in all. The list, however, included just one FBS program (Central Michigan), though nearby Northwestern also showed interest. Rather than waiting on those bigger schools to discover him, Amegadjie — after falling in love with Yale — committed to the Bulldogs before his senior year of high school.

    “I’m super competitive and feel like I was under-recruited, but it all worked out like it was supposed to,” Amegadjie said. “If I could go back and attend any school in the country, I would still pick Yale.”

    Amegadjie was full of optimism after signing with Yale. Despite getting a late start as a football player, his goal of playing the game at the highest levels finally appeared to be on track.

    But then, a roadblock.

    Soon after Amegadjie enrolled, in the fall of 2020, the COVID-19 pandemic forced the Ivy League to cancel its entire football season. No games. No practices.

    That could have derailed Amegadjie’s progress, especially given how relatively little football he’d played to that point. However, it turned out to be a “blessing in disguise.”



    “It gave me a year to train in a college weight room and learn the playbook,” said Amegadjie, whose glass-half-full maturity is as impressive as his football highlights. “My mentality was: ‘I am going to do everything possible to learn and grow so when the opportunity comes, I’ll be ready.’”

    Once viewed as a project, Amegadjie showed up when Yale restarted its workouts in the spring of 2021 with a reshaped body, added strength and a knowledge of the offense that impressed his coaches. He earned the starting left guard role for the 2021 season, before playing at left tackle for the past two years and earning All-Ivy League honors.

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    A political science major, Amegadjie had to handle all of those football responsibilities — staying in shape during a year off, digesting the playbook, developing at multiple positions — while dealing with Yale’s typically heavy course load. Particularly during his first two years in New Haven, Conn., it was a daunting challenge.

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    “In the Ivy League, it’s all a level playing field,” Amegadjie said. “You’re not getting extensions because of football. I know these four years will probably be some of the busiest of my life, but knowing I can handle all that stress and develop my time management will help develop other important skills for the rest of my life.”

    Off his first-team all-league selection in 2022, Amegadjie could have followed a path carved by so many other college football players in recent years and hit the transfer portal — he would have had an opportunity to play in a Power 5 conference last season. He never gave much thought to leaving.

    “I love Yale too much to imagine playing somewhere else,” Amegadjie said.

    However, he ran into another roadblock during his final season there.

    Four games into 2023, during a midweek practice in October, Amegadjie suffered a partially torn left quad. After seeking out a second opinion from a doctor in New York, in hopes of being able to return at some point during the ’23 season, he opted for surgery, which came with an expected recovery time of four to six months. With that, Amegadjie considered returning to Yale for a fifth season and delaying his NFL Draft dreams until 2025.

    But he has never been shy about taking the road less traveled.

    “I wasn’t sure how my injury would affect my stock,” Amegadjie said. “But I got a lot of positive feedback from scouts and thought the NFL was my best opportunity. That’s all I’m looking for: an opportunity. And I’ll make the most of it.”

    With his basketball-built athleticism and rare 36 3/8-inch arms, Amegadjie is straight out of NFL central casting.

    Teams at the next level covet offensive tackles with light feet, coordinated movements and long arms to keep defenders at bay. Amegadjie possesses those traits plus explosiveness and a resolute mentality, hence scouts spending more time than usual on Yale’s campus last fall.

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    “The NFL was always a dream, but my mentality shifted when I got to college,” Amegadjie explained. “I never want to say that I just made it to the NFL. I want this to be my life.”

    When veteran offensive line coach Stefon Wheeler joined the Yale staff last offseason, he took one look at Amegadjie and immediately saw his new left tackle’s NFL potential. But he also soon realized that Amegadjie had the work ethic and drive to get the most out of those physical gifts.

    “Kiran is all about getting better,” said Wheeler. “He’s always asking, ‘What can I do, coach?’ and trying to improve. We’ve worked really hard to add more tools to his toolbox and fine-tune some technical things.”



    It’s a sizeable leap from the FCS to the NFL, so Amegadjie sought out additional resources in the offseason to help ease the impending transition, including workout sessions with 13-year NFL veteran lineman Willie Anderson. When he returned to campus, Amegadjie headed back into the film room with Wheeler.

    As he was still recovering from his in-season surgery, Amegadjie was unable to participate in this year’s Senior Bowl, a missed opportunity, as it would have allowed him to show what he could do against stronger competition than he faced in the Ivy League. For what it’s worth, Amegadjie insisted he would have “put on a show.”

    He still traveled to Mobile, Ala., last month and met with several NFL teams during Senior Bowl week.

    “Once he’s healthy, I think he can walk into an NFL building and compete for a job,” said Wheeler. “He’s a tackle in the long-term, but if someone needs a guard right way, he can do that with no issue.”

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    Amegadjie is currently working out at EXOS in Florida and is ahead of schedule with his rehab. He’s expected to be cleared for full activity this month, which would leave him enough time to get in front of NFL scouts before the draft. The current plan is for Amegadjie to hold a pro day in April, an essential final step before draft weekend.

    Until then, he’ll continue to focus on interviews, including those he’ll have with coaches and GMs at the upcoming NFL combine.

    “I think I’ll be able to show them how much I love football,” Amegadjie said. “I’m not just an Ivy League kid who is smart in the classroom. I’m smart on the field, too. I don’t fit any of the models that people put me in.”
     
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    These guys are going to own the city. Such good personalities. Media/fans will love them.

     
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    #meatballs

     
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    Iron sharpens iron

     
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    As far as FBI agents go he’s the goat imo

     
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    If we had a starting caliber RE I’d felt better about a project OT
     
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    Braiden McGregor an option today?
     
  38. Bankz

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    I think the project narrative isn’t fair. He got injured and could test. Had he been able to I think he’s a top 50 pick. I didn’t list him as a target because I thought teams would snag him before our selection. This kid should be able to come in and play on the interior and he probably will see snaps because the guys inside have proven to be injury prone.

    With that said I think Brice was going to be our selection and he got picked right before.
     
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    explain the Meatballs thing and the FBI comment…
     
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    Bit late to this but easily financed. Useful life of a stadium should be 30 years now.

    Same goes for the city.

    The objections are irrational with a lot of pretend fiscal hawks coming to the party.
     
  41. DirtBall

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    Meatballs are just guys from Chi that grew up loving the bears (Kmet, Edwards, etc) and after playing Peanut went to Quantico and graduated as an FBI agent, I don’t think he actually works for the FBI though, just got certified.
     
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    Ummm, the guy twitter is saying they’re going to pick. This will get some reactions.
     
  43. DirtBall

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    Welp, he’s incredible but using 25% of your draft capital on a punter is interesting.
     
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    Especially when they aren’t going to have to punt this year.
     
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    I don’t mind it tbh. I was pretty tired of gill’s bullshit and I feel like he was getting fourth round grades from some (brugler definitely had him in the fourth)
     
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    I also feel like they might just re-sign yannick at this point. He wasn’t good last year, but he’s at least familiar with the team and didn’t get much of a chance to play with sweat before he got injured
     
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    The Fishman loves it

     
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    Immediate starter in the 4th.
     
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