"Joe, you know if you keep killing all these Palestinians, you might lose the election." "That's a risk I'm willing to take."
Fuck it let’s go there : Hillary implementing and enforcing a no fly zone in Syria would’ve been the best chance to stop the genocide of the Syrian people, surely she was the #1 option right?
There are definitely people that won’t vote for Biden over the current Isreal committing genocide activities (it’s not a war) and there is no point in arguing it. Not everyone subscribes to the lesser of two evils voting if they consider both evil
The really scary thought is that a lot of liberals don't consider genocide evil, and in fact, celebrate it. For example
Don’t engage him. He would personally fly a drone to murder some Palestinian kids if he could. Hes a complete Lunatic
Is it a lot? I don't know, but it's undeniable that there are absolutely Democratic voters who want Palestinians driven out of their country and Israel to do whatever they want with the land. AIPAC wouldn't be spending insane money otherwise lobbying both parties in congress.
You're not the president, but the president is refusing to do anything about the crimes against humanity being carried out by our ally, Israel.
it's too bad "log off" became a meme because like 90% of the people on this board that talk politics would be well served by just disengaging like 25% from what they're consumed by take a break from tiktok and instagram and twitter and everything else that is literally designed to boost engage through outrage
How many on this board are doing that? His post is taking Illini’s shit view on it and lumping basically anyone who supports Biden over Trump in with him. If you’re speaking to the whole of democrats then I will agree to an extent, but that’s not what he was doing.
Don’t disagree with you at all. Maybe I took the “a lot” framing too literally. There is an entirely different discussion to be had about Democratic president after democratic president getting baited and screwed by Bibi and the lunatics running the government in Israel for far too long. It’s filtered down into the party and its voters. It’s fucked up.
Respectfully, I am not trying to play anything. Just my anecdotal experience having been inside of PortCos for 20+y. I agree with the general statement. I am pretty selective about who I work for/with b/c I went through hell working for fuckheads for the first 10y. I think the problem is with capitalism writ large being unchecked and PE is a symptom of that larger problem. There is just simply nothing checking public companies and PE from doing shit that fucks the mid-class and poor on the reg. I will also read the articles thanks for providing them
if Trump wins the next Dem nominee would most likely move even more right . Pulled out of Afghanistan and got destroyed by the media bc of it , most pro union POTUS, etc . If that doesn’t win reelection the foreign policy is going to go the other direction for a long time assuming we even have elections bc Trump will immediately do the ‘2 consecutive terms’ argument and pull a Bukele and never leave
] I’m definitely applying it to folks outside of this board but I didn’t believe I needed to explain that. I hope Illini gets hit with a bus
You guys it's so complicated. We're all just too naive to understand why opening fire on people in a breadline is good.
it’s not good, it’s bad, in a different scenario I would act differently but I have to worry about domestic issues right now and that’s a no brainer it’s not a warm and fuzzy calculus but it is what it is
I mean yeah, I would rather no have to flee the country when Florida decides that black people no longer deserve rights
I don’t see the point in trying to convince someone who is adamant about not voting for Biden why they should. Anyone in this thread already knows elections are a binary choice in this country and is okay with lodging a protest vote or no vote at all. So you’re not changing their mind. They know the consequences and feel that morally they can’t support either candidate.
I disagree. They're protesting over this one very solvable problem. These are Democratic primary voters- people for whom being a Democrat is part of their identity.
I wasn’t attempting to convince anyone. I was just calling out how stupid it would be to protest vote on a topic where, unfortunately, it would only get worse with who would benefit from the protest/non vote. People have every right to be upset and critical. Just think not voting would be a terrible decision