CHAMPS XVIII

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  1. Owsley

    Owsley My friends call me Bear
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    UGA at home too. At Michigan won’t be a cakewalk, but that team will be close to unrecognizable from this year’s title winners. 11-1 should be the floor for them next regular season. We’ll see how it goes.
     
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  2. Jax Teller

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    They got an absolute cake walk of a first year while OU got a much tougher one.
     
  3. SummerOfGeorge

    SummerOfGeorge Friend of the Program
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    We're too busy not funding the new basketball arena.
     
  4. Owsley

    Owsley My friends call me Bear
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    We aren’t beating either of those two teams when it comes to paying players.
     
  5. Juicy Locke

    Juicy Locke Proud Papa
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    Is it can’t, or won’t?
     
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  6. LeonardWashington

    LeonardWashington Leader of Tuanon
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    Well why? Is our NIL like... horrible?
     
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  7. jawsthegreat

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    the question is why and how do we fix it
     
  8. LeonardWashington

    LeonardWashington Leader of Tuanon
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    Also a good question
     
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  9. RJF-GUMP

    RJF-GUMP Daubert Qualified in Cooler Thermodynamics
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    If they really paid Bond $1M that’s twice what we pay 5 star blue chips
     
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  10. Owsley

    Owsley My friends call me Bear
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    Because we didn’t have to rely on it when Saban was here. You’re a smart guy, this should be pretty obvious.
     
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  11. LeonardWashington

    LeonardWashington Leader of Tuanon
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    Well you're a smart guy, he was 72, why the fuck were we not prepared?
     
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  12. Owsley

    Owsley My friends call me Bear
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    Well, we’re never getting oil money and Jimmy Rayne is bank rolling Auburn, so I doubt we catch up there either.
     
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  13. SummerOfGeorge

    SummerOfGeorge Friend of the Program
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    I would hope that an 18 month plan to fix this is being addressed currently, because while it is understandable WHY we are behind, it cannot continue in that way.
     
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  14. TYdeFan05

    TYdeFan05 gOATS ™
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    This is what we pay for. RTR!!!!??!??
     
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  15. DDB

    DDB Some men just want to watch the world burn
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    How many years were left on Sabans contract?
     
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  16. Juicy Locke

    Juicy Locke Proud Papa
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    If our NIL is behind, begging people like us to give isn’t really gonna change it that much. They need to talk to the big boys.
     
  17. RJF-GUMP

    RJF-GUMP Daubert Qualified in Cooler Thermodynamics
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    Our NIL isn’t horrible. We’re a top 10 NIL team but we can’t compete with Texas or A&M and we can’t blow our budget on Bond. If we’re gonna pay someone $1M it would be Downs
     
  18. junior5

    junior5 @TrustyPatches’ granddaddy

    the problem is schools like Texas & Auburn have been starving for relevancy for a while and we have been at the top. It's a little easier to raise funds when you've been terrible and you can now put money up to directly affect recruiting. If we experience a lull in performance or recruiting I would expect our NIL to be as competitive as anyone. We just haven't had to
     
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  19. Owsley

    Owsley My friends call me Bear
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    Probably because he decided to retire 5 minutes before a team meeting. And our collective is run by Aaron Suttles. Even if it gets better under DeBoer, if you think we’re about to start paying on the same level of Tennessee, Auburn, aTm, Miami, etc. you’re setting yourself up for unnecessary disappointment.
     
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  20. SummerOfGeorge

    SummerOfGeorge Friend of the Program
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    We're not the big boys? THIS IS A THREAD FULL OF LAWYERS AND ACCOUNTANTS AND JEWEL MEN AND FINANCIERS AND GUYS WITH DOLLY PARTON COFFEE TABLE BOOKS!
     
  21. Owsley

    Owsley My friends call me Bear
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    Also, I’m not that smart. Just terminally online.
     
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  22. RJF-GUMP

    RJF-GUMP Daubert Qualified in Cooler Thermodynamics
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    Seems obvious to me that Texas boosters are on another planet than ours. We’ll never compete with oil money.
     
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  23. LeonardWashington

    LeonardWashington Leader of Tuanon
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    I mean we have a private jet aficionado itt for christ sakes!!!!
     
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  24. Owsley

    Owsley My friends call me Bear
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    It really is stric006’s fault
     
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  25. DaveGrohl

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    Bond posted a picture in a Lamborghinii yesterday. Supposedly Texas NIL includes a deal with a local dealership where you get one as long as you’re at Texas, like a free lease.
     
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  26. Juicy Locke

    Juicy Locke Proud Papa
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    If I’m Suttles I’m asking Saban does he want to contribute. He’s got some cash.
     
  27. SummerOfGeorge

    SummerOfGeorge Friend of the Program
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    stric006 , how much bling have you committed to NIL in the form in-kind donation?
     
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  28. DDB

    DDB Some men just want to watch the world burn
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    Just take the rest of the money allocated for Sabans contract and put it towards nil
     
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  29. Snakes

    Snakes clumsy interloper
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    Well Saban thinks the whole thing is stupid so I think the notion that he will become our big NiL savior is a BOL pipe dream.
     
  30. SummerOfGeorge

    SummerOfGeorge Friend of the Program
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    Of course - there are going to be a handful of schools who both care deeply about sports and have lots of alumni with deep pockets that we won't be able to compete with. Texas will always be one of those.
     
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  31. junior5

    junior5 @TrustyPatches’ granddaddy

    these collectives are weird. They should have to offer some transparency about how the funds are used
     
  32. Old_Gregg

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    We relied on Saban and Auburn is desperate. They have been willing to throw out a lot more money than most schools and they wanted the win over Alabama and Saban in recruiting.
     
  33. Jax Teller

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    Make use of those dealerships damnit.
    Also how in the world is Suttles running our NIL? I thought that other dude was the director and Suttles
    was just in charge of content?
     
  34. SummerOfGeorge

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    I think he's going to do what was reported somewhere (Lowe at ESPN maybe?) and focus on being the defacto shadow commissioner of the sport and work with the NCAA/lawmakers/etc to figure all of this out moving forward - while also being with his grandkids, going on trips with Mrs Terry and playing golf everyday.

    All of this talk of Saban as the GM of the program moving forward is dreamcasting, IMHO. He'll help initially with the handoff, but I'd be shocked if it's anything past that.
     
  35. junior5

    junior5 @TrustyPatches’ granddaddy

    Texas can only fill 85 spots. It's ok if we can't compete with 3-5 schools. Not competing with Auburn is inexcusable to me. Don't care about Jimmy Rayne
     
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  36. RJF-GUMP

    RJF-GUMP Daubert Qualified in Cooler Thermodynamics
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    Texas, A&M, and Miami because of like 1 guy are all ahead of us.
    Tennessee has a better run collective but I don’t think they have inherently more money than us. We could do better, I agree. But have a hard ceiling that will always put us behind about 3-5 schools.
     
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  37. TYdeFan05

    TYdeFan05 gOATS ™
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    We should institute a 1% NIL tax on our players in the NFL
    (Joking)
    kind of
     
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  38. LeonardWashington

    LeonardWashington Leader of Tuanon
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    yeah that a'int happening.

    Hell I'm used to being poor in basketball, but being poor in football sucks.
     
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  39. Snakes

    Snakes clumsy interloper
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    We also don’t have a Yella Fella. Dude is a billionaire and hardcore aub. I don’t think we have anyone on his level.
     
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  40. Capstone 88

    Capstone 88 Going hard in the paint
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    I joined the NIL yesterday so consider the problem solved folks.
     
  41. SummerOfGeorge

    SummerOfGeorge Friend of the Program
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    My expectation is that we are well run and in front of things so that we can give the coach a solid budget to work with in recruiting and in player retention. I don't expect to reset the market on big recruits like Miami has done or Tennessee did with Nico, but we should never lose guys who somewhat want to be here because of NIL. That's my general expectation level.
     
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  42. SummerOfGeorge

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    So how soon are we gonna lose Nate when his meager NIL piggy bank dries up AND the arena is totally out of the question at any point for the next 10 years?
     
  43. HtownTide

    HtownTide I make motion pictures. Space movies
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    Maybe if you guys werent so busy scrolling TMB all day and out acquiring currency we’d have a better NIL program!!
     
  44. Saul Shabazz

    Saul Shabazz We Breachin
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    Miami isn't 1 guy
    the Mas family and their Cuban human trafficking op proceeds funds Mario

    Ruiz keeps the heat off
     
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  45. Jax Teller

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    Went to the Yea Alabam site for the first time. Good lord is that bad.
     
  46. Snakes

    Snakes clumsy interloper
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    As he should.
     
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  47. SummerOfGeorge

    SummerOfGeorge Friend of the Program
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    100% - he's also an old school coach who respects other coaches and the profession. The last thing he wants is to be looked at as some sort of massive shadow figure hanging around.
     
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  48. HtownTide

    HtownTide I make motion pictures. Space movies
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    Shame on us for not laundering Qatari blood money through our NIL fund like A&M
     
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  49. junior5

    junior5 @TrustyPatches’ granddaddy

    this is why I believe Byrne targeted DeBoer. If we're going to have limitations with NIL resources competing against the schools with the top money, we need a guy that gives us a schematic advantage so we can make the playoffs with a 5-10 roster
     
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  50. SummerOfGeorge

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    Time for us to cut down all the forests of the West Alabama blackbelt, tank the lumber market and go all in.