Trumpocalypse: No hanky/lanky

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  1. MORBO!

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    That might be my new favorite gif
     
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  2. NYGator

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    We all agree on the last part. My point is that VA just did what I said, because they finally overcame the gerrymander. Hopefully should be smoother sailing from here for them if the the Democrat leadership there doesn't fuck it up like they almost did. There are critical States like Georgia and Texas and some of the midwestern States who aren't there yet. If your goal is to get all existing Democrat run States to hop on board, i don't think it would be that difficult. The issue is with the other States, and that is why I think it has to be done federally, just like civil rights. the backward States will not just hand over the keys to the controls to the people in whole. Also any State laws can be reversed as soon as someone else is in power. Translation: racism controls this.
     
  3. steamengine

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    This is absolutely where the impeachment proceedings are headed. The GOP arguing trump is too incompetent to pull off a bribe so no crime.
     
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  5. $P1

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    There are multiple purple states that could be targeted in similar fashion. We don't need the red states. Gains have to be made at the local level because the Court isn't going to strike down gerrymandering in any appreciable form.

    Hoping and wishing for gerrymandering to go away isn't going to work.

    You have to get work past it, and then set new conditions (election holiday) that either neuter the gerrymandering or give you power to legislate it out of existence.
     
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  6. joe-

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  7. Lyrtch

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    hopefully our Louisiana posters are voting or getting ready to
     
  8. NYGator

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    We agree, but how do you get a purple State to do that especially if it is only purple by gerrymandering and not by the will of the people?
     
  9. Schadenfred

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    Quite the good two-fer here.

    1. Standard veiled comment about anti-Semitism.
    2. Standard veiled comment about Warren's claimed heritage.

    Gonna coin a new term: reductio ad judaism.
     
  10. Where Eagles Dare

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    Assume this was his delete tweet?

     
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  11. joe-

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    yep it’s a different guy
     
  12. $P1

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    By using the Virginia playbook, the brute force of money and effort strategically targeted at vulnerable districts. What we didn't do for the last 20 years.

    But brute force will only flip a purple state's legislature for one cycle unless you follow it up by institutionalizing a competitive advantage -- like making election day a holiday.

    You don't need to re-gerrymander (and defend it) if you make it easier for everyone to vote.
     
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  13. joe-

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    Rand Paul outed this same guy yesterday too
     
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  14. NYGator

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    I completely agree that we should put in place where we can. I am a little more dubious on getting it in place in some places where we should already have the votes but don't. There also will be situations that will make it tough to keep. For example if the VA black face issue had played out differently you can easily lose it and watch the Republicans put in policies that would set everything back and screw up the playing field.
     
  15. BrentTray

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  16. Joe_Pesci

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    Bernie gets no respect smh
     
  17. Bruce Wayne

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    Wow Steve King posting something about a Jewish person?
     
  18. joe-

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    to insist a republican is antisemitic is antisemitic
     
  19. steamengine

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  20. joe-

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    everybody knows too much about everyone else for anyone to actually cooperate
     
  21. Beeds07

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    You would think that everyone attached to Trump probably has some type of doomsday scenario they can launch on him because he is a moron.
     
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  22. Hatfield

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    Giuliani’s lawyer, Robert Costello, who was also on the call, then interjected: “He’s joking.”
     
  23. afb

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    when's the last time you saw a 70 year old not on speakerphone
     
  24. afb

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    this does not fix everything, for the umpteenth time
     
  25. $P1

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    It would be the best catalyst to fixing most things, for the umpteenth time.
     
  26. afb

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    more early voting and more locations to early vote at would be a bigger deal
     
  27. $P1

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    No, it wouldn't. And that really doesn't matter because neither exclude the other
     
  28. Andy Reocho

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    You don't need/rely on early voting if everyone is off of work and able to go to the polls on election day
     
  29. afb

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    you understand people who don't work corporate gigs tend to work on national holidays right?
     
  30. Damion

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  31. afb

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    that's not how all jobs work, lots of people work on national holidays

    so by cramming everything into 1 day, you are still excluding people who cant go that day, who cant wait in that long of a line, who cant travel, etc
     
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  32. Doc Louis

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    That's a great start now need to see it for this
     
  33. cutig

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    Why can't voting be like a week long including weekends
     
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  34. Andy Reocho

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    I feel like you're arguing for a smaller caveat of people that would use early voting, compared to the larger number of folks who would have the ability to get to the polls on election day. Think about how many folks would gain an off day and have the ability to spend the hour(s) in line?
     
  35. afb

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    you should really look into the demographics of Dem voters if you think im talking about a smaller caveat of people
     
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  36. zeberdee

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    they'd have to shut down the schools that serve as polling places for that time and find people to work all that time.
     
  37. afb

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    churches routinely have shuttle service on sundays after church to get people to the voting booths

    but yeah, lets make it all on a tuesday and that will fix it
     
  38. $P1

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    It wouldn't eliminate early voting or prevent more early voting days, which I absolutely agree are both needed.

    What you're not considering is the social/pride factor of participating in election day. Participation doesn't just go up with access, it also goes up as people feel involved in the process as a civic duty. Making election day a holiday helps in both respects. That's why it's more impactful than just adding more early voting days.
     
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  39. $P1

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    Literally no one has said this.
     
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  40. Andy Reocho

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    IMO, this should be something to improve all numbers, not just the democrats.
     
  41. Andy Reocho

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    LOL. Yea because all voting would just be limited to one day. Quit being deliberately obtuse
     
  42. afb

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    cool, so both and move on and not waste pages on this
     
  43. $P1

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    Yeah I think you thought I was arguing a position I wasn't. We're definitely on the same page. Expanded access in all directions is necessary
     
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  44. bro

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    Move voting day to a Monday. Make it a national holiday. Allow the polls to be ope. Sat-Monday. Allow early voting. And voting by mail.


    Done and done
     
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  45. steamengine

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    A pretty promising young Texas Democrat dropped some blow in his official letterhead at the airport, haha.

     
  46. portlandspartan

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    All those things and also the slob brother of the Minions guy
     
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  47. Mister Me Too

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    I can’t wait to discuss this with aspenbuff once he gets back from the Gym
     
  48. CUAngler

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    Was this call before Ukraine knew of the hold of the aid package?