*Notre Dame* - On Vacation

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  1. Thoros of Beer

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    Try breathing through your nose.

    No one is whining. It's okay to discuss things.

    Notre Dame does not get the benefit of the doubt and other teams do, that's the point. You can't see the comments coming from the committee and come to a different conclusion.

    Clemson has beaten two ranked teams (20 and 22) by a combined 6 points. If Ohio State had our resume they would be ahead of Clemson
     
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  2. morrdave9

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    We are ranked where we should be at the moment, but I don't like the way that committee member worded his response. "We said there was a deep discussion on 3, 4, 5 and the head-to-head at this point still does carry the weight." and the comment about Clemson and Bama looking better than ND. Basically he's leaving the door open for them to have Michigan jump us with their justification being A) conference champ and B) Michigan looks better now.

    The committee at this point really just needs to be concerned with their ranking of Michigan, Georgia, and Oklahoma. No reason to lump ND into that group but they did based on his response.
     
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  3. NilesIrish

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    I'm agreeing with you and I feel gross.
     
  4. Thoros of Beer

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    Me too
     
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  5. chase538

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    Take a lap. We'll wait on ya
     
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  6. repoocs

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    I didn't love the wording, either, but it has nothing to do with 2012. And it's not like the media and other fans had some lofty opinion of us prior to 2012. Our perception is better now than it was that season.
     
  7. repoocs

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    Discussion is one thing. Preferring to go back and not take a chance to play for a title is another.
     
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  8. morrdave9

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    Screw it, we should be 2 if prior years or earlier rankings don't matter as they claim.

    Top 25 wins: ND 4, Clemson 2
    Common opponents: 2 - FSU was a blow out for each. ND dominated Syracuse while Clemson struggled. (*3 - I forgot Wake Forest, Clemson had a bigger blow out win than we did)
    Best Win: ND over #4 Michigan, Clemson over #20 Syracuse (ND's 3rd best win)

    Rob Mullens reasoning for keeping ND out of the discussion with Clemson/Bama is that they look like more complete teams. They just say whatever they want to fit their narrative.
     
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  9. Juke Coolengody

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    I feel like the committee this year is valuing different factors more heavily - like the eye test seems like it carries more weight than prior years. The way Rob Mullens comes off in interviews, I'm kind of bewildered that he's heading the operation. He doesn't convey the thinking of the committee clearly compared to past leaders.
     
  10. IrishLAX2

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    Their story has never been consistent. One year “quality wins” is the criteria. Next year it’s “strength of schedule”. Problem is, the overlap between the annual arguments is not always good.

    Resume alone, ours kills Clemson’s. But they have “eye test” and past precedent. The latter being a major factor that nobody will say publicly.
     
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  11. morrdave9

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    The "eye test" is a convenient cop out they use. Clemson is blowing teams out, but they haven't played a ranked team since September. Combined record of the teams they've played since Syracuse on 9/29 is 16-28.
     
  12. Wicket

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    I dont have issues with clemson being above us. Honestly it feels like nobodys schedule is any good but I dont think we've had a streak of results this year like clemson had after the cuse game. Thats 6 straight games where the average result is 52-8, in that streak their average win was bigger than out biggest win, and thats all ACC opponents and included 2 game days iirc. A similar streak like that last year got us in the playoff discussion after a loss as well so I dont think its that inconsistent.

    The committee seems to value teams being able to absolutely murder P5 opponents on a somewhat consistent basis and whilst weve been beating teams handily its not like it was last year (except for the cuse game) where teams dont look like they are from the same league almost
     
  13. Yanks711

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    Saw this asked about a page or so back
     
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  14. Thoros of Beer

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    Notre Dame has never been down by double digits this season. I'd take those points
     
  15. Thoros of Beer

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    No one said this
     
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  16. repoocs

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  17. CTownND

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    Anyone know any last minute tickets drops, alumni connections, etc etc to help out with tickets?

    I'm steaming right now but my buddies never pulled the trigger on tix (he lied to me and said we had tix) and said they will now only go if we get a group of 5 for under $100 if anyone think that's possible.
     
  18. Wicket

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    seatgeek has 5 together for 98
     
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  19. Beeds07

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    Thank God I'm not alone.
     
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  20. Voodoo

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    If you want to have tickets now, then just buy the five cheapest tickets available and then find a place you can all sit together. I'm sure there will be plenty of open seats.


    Alternatively, you can wait a couple days. Tickets have gone from $90 a couple weeks ago to $55 right now. There are still almost 3,000 tickets available on stubhub so prices should continue to drop.
     
  21. Thoros of Beer

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    Again, no one said they would have made the choice to not compete for a national championship. The only thing that most everyone is saying is that we would be better off had we not been destroyed by Alabama in the title game. It was just a thought exercise. As I'm sure you are aware, no one can see the future.
     
  22. CTownND

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    Well, by some miracle, literally just as I posted that, there was a real outlier 5 person section posted together in okay seats for $97 after fees so I jumped on them instead of giving a chance for my friends to flake again for $10-15 of savings.

    USC fans suck, none of them want to go.
     
  23. beist

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    I specifically said you can only make that decision with hindsight. This is obviously a discussion in that context and I would never pass on a shot at the title in the real world.
     
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  24. repoocs

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    I can. And JT Daniels is not going to enjoy it.
     
  25. SD_Irish

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    After watching SC’s oline struggle against a pedestrian UCLA, I would agree that the odds are that JT is in for a long afternoon.
     
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  26. NDfanPSUgrad

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    Happy Thanksgiving. I’m thankful ND beat michigan this year.
     
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  27. Wicket

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    happy turkey day fellas

    gobble gobble!

    I'm grateful for 4 straight days of football at timezone-appropriate hours
     
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  29. Wicket

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    harbaugh can't be the turkey, thats a nervous bird
     
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  30. Beeds07

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    Happy Thanksgiving all
     
  31. Beeds07

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    ND/SC 2012 on ESPN2 right now
     
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  32. laxjoe

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    Coming up on the goal line stand

    Never mind. Jumped the gun on that
     
  33. Owsley

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    Do y’all worry about Kelly to the NFL at all, or are those rumors akin to the Saban to the NFL rumors from earlier in his Bama tenure?

    Love how y’all match up vs Clemson btw. Their OL is a big weakness, and I think y’all’s DL will feast. Love is also able to neutralize Higgins, and Book can exploit their back 7 if given time.
     
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  34. IHHH

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    Who knows on Kelly, he’s been linked to a few nfl jobs and interviewed so there might be interest but what has been the word for a while is that he is not going to coach Nd much longer(1-3 years maybe), what most people thought was that he was going to retire. But he might take a shot at the nfl.
     
  35. IHHH

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    Also like the matchup with Clemson, Étienne is a problem though.
     
  36. Owsley

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    Their OCs seem very hesitant to use him as a bell cow. The big play potential is certainly there, though.
     
  37. IrishLAX2

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    Retirement is a bigger concern than the NFL at this point
     
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  38. Bert Handsome

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    I think that ship has sailed but who the hell knows. The crop of NFL coordinators is weak so teams are going to dip in to the college ranks for sure. Campbell and Riley are probably at the top of the list though.

    Kelly finally seams comfortable at ND for the first time in his tenure.
     
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  39. Bert Handsome

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    NFL seams to be leaning towards younger coaches too.
     
  40. Owsley

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    Just from burnout, or is there family/health stuff behind the scenes? Is there a clear-cut successor out there? Urban after he takes 2 years off?
     
  41. IrishLAX2

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    Probably burnout to some degree. Think he wants to relax and play golf soon.

    He’s trying to groom both coordinators right now to get one of them to take over in time.
    Not sure if our AD is on the same page on that though.
     
  42. repoocs

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    There's no clear cut successor. Stoops will come up, but I think his retirement is sincere. John Harbaugh's been whispered a time or two, as well, but honestly who knows at this point?

    Kelly actually appears to be having fun this season. Sure, winning will do that for you, but he seemed awfully loose coming into the season. Then again, it was the most drama-free offseason we've seen in awhile.
     
  43. IHHH

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    Yeah burnout, the job has been tougher than he thought. He had to fire a few of his friends over the years which can’t be easy
     
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  44. laxjoe

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    If he's here two more years, he'll be the longest tenured coach since Rockne. ND coaches just don't hang around that long and like others have said, he probably wants to relax a bit.
     
  45. Owsley

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    I get it. It’s still crazy Saban is in his 11th year, and will almost certainly make it to 15.
     
  46. SD_Irish

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    Watching the Lions and Bears game. Can I say that I still hate Taylor Decker and I will never forgive him for injuring Jaylon?

    Because I do.
     
  47. Wicket

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    samesies
     
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  48. Bert Handsome

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    :warn:
     
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  49. NilesIrish

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    Good Day. Bears win, The Irish are likely to roll Saturday unless something odd happens and, my smoker is rolling well in this cold ass climate. Happy Thanksgiving all.
     
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