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  1. fucktebow

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    Which takes away from his coaching ability how?
     
  2. Croomsday

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    well you broke the news dumpy i expected you to know
     
  3. ddseli

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    where is this being reported/tweeted
     
  4. Croomsday

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    Following

    Multiple sources confirm that UAB has offered its head coaching position to Ole Miss' Andy Kennedy.......
     
  5. wes tegg

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    Generally, I agree with you. But, he's got more talent returning this year than he ever has.

    Still, I think he's gone. I think this delay on Jelan Kendrick's status on the team has been him putting it off so he doesn't have to deal with it.
     
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  7. wes tegg

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    Seen it from Garrett and Kellenberger
     
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    fuck this asshole and fuck Parkinson's
     
  9. Croomsday

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    jesus imagine Eustachy in Oxford...that wouldn't end well
     
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    I will get the hardest boner.
     
  12. wes tegg

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    It all makes sense. Shaka Smart is holding out for the Ole Miss job to open up...
     
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  13. Croomsday

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    Bjorn's first hire would be the greatest of all time
     
  14. lsufball19

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    might need to subtract 1 from MS bball programs on the rise if AK does leave. Even though Kennedy played at UAB I still can't believe he'd leave Ole Miss for them. You'd have to think he would have more resources at Ole Miss than he ever would at UAB. And with Memphis leaving the CUSA, that conference is going to be worthless in basketball.
     
  15. wes tegg

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    It's a conference they can win every year and 100% of UAB's resources go to basketball. They have nice facilities, believe it or not.
     
  16. lsufball19

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    what's the time table on ole miss building a new bball arena?
     
  17. fucktebow

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    Unless Kennedy finds a motherfucker that can score, hes not making the NCAA tournament. That talent doesn't matter unless he finds an offense.
     
  18. wes tegg

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    I think construction begins next spring.
     
  19. wes tegg

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    Signed a 4-Star 2-Guard out of Memphis and a shooter out of Texas who's supposed to be like that mustachioed shithead for Tennessee.
     
  20. Croomsday

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    wes please stop making me die of laughter in class
     
  21. fucktebow

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    A spot up shooter? Nick Williams could score at times. They need a player who can take over games, not somebody who can get hot every now and them. A real go-to guy. Niether of those guys can come in and do that.
     
  22. wes tegg

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    Memphis guy is a scorer who can shoot. Texas guy is a pure shooter. I think we can make the tournament if we can average 25 a game from the backcourt.
     
  23. fucktebow

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    Big if... but you're right, with that athleticism you certainly could.
     
  24. wes tegg

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    We're extremely deep in the frontcourt. Hell, even Williams spent a lot of time under the basket at Indiana. I think we really need a guy who can hit the three well enough to spread out a defense. That will make it easier on our guards who are more comfortable slashing.
     
  25. fucktebow

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    I still
    I still don't trust Stansbury junior. You've had NCAA tournament talent a couple years. He simply just doesn't run an offense.... his players do play hard though, which makes up for a lot. You can rebound and defend with anybody though, which were Stansbury staples for years and, with the right talent can take you very far.
     
  26. wes tegg

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    Yeah, I totally agree. His style of play infuriates me. Our offense runs off the offensive rebound/putback. I'd love for somebody else to come in this year. I'd probably kill a hobo for AK to go to UAB and Eustachy to come to Oxford.
     
  27. Old_Gregg

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    You said that he could coach based on the fact that he won 31 games without a player over 6-9. I pointed out that his predecessor did that also. The rest of the info was just pointing out that the team that he took over was comprised almost solely of very experienced upperclassmen that had all already played in the NCAAT and won back to back conference championships(regular season).

    He might be a very good coach, but so far he hasn't done enough to be a homerun hire. After seeing coaches like Larry Coker and Houston Nutt do great in their first year with a program and then get progressively worse every year after, it is hard to say a coach is very good after one year with another coaches players.
     
  28. Croomsday

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    you need to read the thread on TD about this jesus if RebelGator isn't the worst fucking poster ever
     
  29. wes tegg

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    Link?
     
  30. fucktebow

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    Fair enough, I just think his energy and passion that carries over to his players are what Stricklin and Mississippi State are looking for. Gotta establish some discipline in a program that has none at this point.
     
  31. Old_Gregg

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    I will agree that State desperately needs that. It seems like Stansbury let his players do whatever the hell they wanted.
     
  32. Croomsday

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    this is an understatement
     
  33. fucktebow

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    Nothing like a good Renardo Sidney tweet..
     
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  34. Croomsday

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    what about Grant to Illinois?
     
  35. fucktebow

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    Not a lateral move, but SEC basketball <<<<<<<<<<<<<< Big 10 basketball.
     
  36. (Z)

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    Seems happy here and we pay him well, but you never know.
     
  37. Virgil Caine

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    I keep trying to imbed video off Facebook but it won't work, but Marshall Henderson (leading scorer for #1 JUCO team) is the shooter they're referring to. He averaged 11.8 ppg and started all 30 games as a true freshman at Utah two seasons ago. Jim Boylen got fired, so he transferred to Texas Tech. Sat out last year and Pat Knight got fired, so get back into D1 basketball, he had to go JUCO for a year where he is averaging 19.1 ppg on 42% from 3 and 87% at the FT line. Both of those categories is where Ole Miss lacked this season.

    Jason Carter, from Chipola, was at Alabama last season. He chose Alabama over Ole Miss out of high school. Been told he's very talented but also nuts. The difference with these two JUCOs is both actually have high-major experience and one was actually All-Mountain West as a freshman.

    That's not even mentioning 4* (if you buy into that shit) Martavious Newby out of Memphis and 3*, 6'9" perimeter guy, Anthony Cortesia out of Montverde Academy in Florida.

    And Ole Miss only loses Terrance Henry. The assumption is Jelan Kendrick is out, too, but his loss isn't that vital.

    So in summation, next season looks to be the best on paper that Kennedy's had at Ole Miss.
     
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  38. Virgil Caine

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    Ole Miss actually runs a lot of iso-heavy sets with guys moving without the ball off stagger screens. That style allows for players to make reads on the floor based on what the defense gives them. That's why people say "THEY DON'T RUN ANYTHINNNNNGGGGGGGG." It's simply untrue and uneducated.
     
  39. Croomsday

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  40. wes tegg

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    But that's not how we run it. I'm all for a system that allows for reads on the floor. You waste athleticism by running set plays. That's why you're hard pressed to find anybody other than lesser talented teams running more "plays" than reads. It's impossible to quantify, but I bet we took more dumb shots and had more turnovers as a result of poor decisions than any team I watched this year.
     
  41. Virgil Caine

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    Not picking on you here, Dink, just the fanbase you emanate from, but the Mississippi State search is a practice in delusional thinking.

    Let's look at these candidates.

    The day after the job opened, there was a Miss. State blog claiming Shaka Smart had been contacted and that he was warm to the idea of coming to Miss. State. Thing is, that very day Shaka Smart was preparing for an NCAA tournament game. That motherfucker never even considered Mississippi State.

    So here we are now:

    Steve Prohm- Nothing wrong with Prohm. I'd be skeptical though considering he's been a head coach at a low-to-mid-major for one season with guys that Billy Kennedy assembled. Did he do a good job? Sure. If he got the gig, I don't think it'd be a bad hire, but is it really better than Stansbury?

    John Groce- Rising stock. Guy's a hothead but has won some games with a great roster this season featuring D.J. Cooper, Nick Kellogg, Walter Offutt, Ivo Baltic and Reggie Keely. Here's the problem. The guy's D1 experience is at NC State, Butler, Xavier, Ohio State and Ohio. Yeah, not a single job in the South. Are you confident with a complete outsider coming to Mississippi and recruiting against guys like Andy Kennedy, Anthony Grant, Trent Johnson, Cuonzo Martin, Mike Anderson, etc?

    Chris Collins- I love it when people bring up Duke assistants. It's hilarious b/c you realize they have very little control at Duke, right? Krzyzewski has total control of that program. Furthermore, how many times have you seen a Duke assistant get a head job in the last decade? Yeah, just one: Johnny Dawkins. And that was Stanford.

    Joe Dooley and Kenny Payne- :meh:

    Frank Martin- I should be laughing loudly at this, but apparently his name has been floated around the South Carolina job. The difference is South Carolina pays better, has better facilities and funds their program better. I still don't think he takes either job but hey, whatever.

    Just hire Prohm and get it the fuck over with.
     
  42. Virgil Caine

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    Sure they took dumb shots and had bad turnovers, but so did everyone else. If it were that big a problem, Ole Miss wouldn't be regularly in the NCAAT conversation year after year. Instead, they'd be Auburn.
     
  43. Croomsday

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    you do realize that was a Coach34 blog post right..he's about like Gene and Co. when it comes to that shit.
    just leading the flock
     
  44. Virgil Caine

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    Exxxxxxactly.

    And BTW, you can edit the thread title b/c neither are happening.
     
  45. Croomsday

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    making sure you didn't think I was ever thinking we'd get Shaka
    we're going to hire Prohm and I'm fine with it
     
  46. Virgil Caine

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    Nah. As I said, I'm laughing at your fan base, not you.
     
  47. wes tegg

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    I don't follow your logic. It could be that big a problem and be the difference between us regularly being in the NCAAT conversation and regularly being in the NCAAT.
     
  48. Croomsday

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    :wink: alright chief
     
  49. Virgil Caine

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    Ole Miss' offensive style has nothing, and I mean absolutely nothing, to do with coming up just short of the NCAAT. The biggest issue has been that most of these seasons, they've been a piece or two away. People forget the season Ole Miss had Terrico White and Chris Warren together (09-10), they were starting DeAundre Cranston at the 5 and Murphy Holloway (at 6'6" at the 4).
     
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