2024 NFL Draft Thread

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  1. hood b. goode

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    that first Ladd mcconkey vs cooper dejean 1-on-1 at the combine [​IMG] :banderas::blessed:
     
  2. Bert Handsome

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    The consensus among draft analysts seems to be that you don't get to anyone on defense until like #12 on the big board. So saying that in the name of value you'd rather go corner or edge isn't the same as most years. Usually at #8 you would have a top 5 overall player at edge, dl, or CB there because QB and OT sees reaches. Atlanta reaching at Edge seems to be the safest bet to bust outside of Chicago at QB in the entire world of professional sports drafts.

    Edit, Brugler has Arnold at #10, but after that there are only three more defensive players in the top 20. The top of this draft is all offense though.
     
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  3. DirtBall

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    Does Chicago trade either the 8 or the 9 for more picks or do they go WR/OT back to back? Lots of moves to be made still.

     
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  4. dump

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    Fields is more likely to be dealt for a 2
     
  5. DirtBall

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  6. BudKilmer

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    0% chance Fields goes for a 1
     
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  7. Handcuffed

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    think the longer fields is not traded, the cheaper his price would get
     
  8. Bankz

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    this feels like every GM he spoke to paid him to post a smoke screen selection….

    Adonai going ahead of Franklin is laughable.
    And somehow he topped it by having Adonai going in the first round.

    Pats not selecting a QB given what’s on the roster and what’s on the board is also crazy town.
     
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  9. Gunners

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    This is one of the worst revisionist bullshit tweets I've ever seen. Tunsil has never made an all pro team, on what planet is he a future hall of famer. Collins never topped 500 yards, Schultz is a very average TE. Just nonsense, find me 1 person who thought the Texans were set up for success.

     
  10. MG2

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    I can't stand the argument he's making. Drove me nuts when people made it around the Lions back in the day about not taking Stafford in 09.

    If you think a QB is worth the pick, you take him. If not, take someone else. It's really that simple. On top of the revisionist nonsense you called out.
     
  11. vander02

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    My hottake is that you should always take a QB in round 1 if the grades are close at all, the economics alone make it worth it. If you don’t have a QB you keep taking them until it works. Especially if you don’t have to give up any extra capital like the Pats this year.
     
  12. southlick

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  13. —

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    I think the top 3 receivers are closer together than people think, but I still think Marvin Harrison is #1.
     
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  14. Corch

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    Matt Miller making a career out of being an NFL Draft dipshit is kind of fucking wild.

    Like when did anyone decide this guy has any fucking idea what he's talking about? Obviously not referencing anyone here but someone had to decide he was worth giving a platform to and what went into that decision?
     
  15. MG2

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    When Todd McShay started costing too much money
     
  16. RoderickJaynes

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    I don’t think that tweet was comparing odunze to the other draft class wr’s, it was saying that he’ll be considered a number 1 receiver in the nfl. He still has him as his third receiver off the board in his latest mock
     
  17. Corch

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    What's the downside on Keon Coleman? Every time I watched him this year he looked really good and I imagine he'll be a steal for someone in the 20's
     
  18. The Banks

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    Would also like Florida State fan’s take on Johnny Wilson. Dude had terrible hands in high school as well as his time at Arizona State. Did he finally learn how to catch?

    Surprised he had just 2 TD this year (and 8 total in 4 seasons) for being a 6’7” 235 lb WR. Should be a RZ nightmare.
     
  19. Handcuffed

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    has daniel jeremiah considered that odunze plays like n'keal harry though?
     
  20. Corch

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    Feels like he dropped a ton of passes every time I watched him.

    I'd bet he's out of the league in 3 years.
     
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  21. Corch

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    This would be a good burn if N'Keal Harry wouldn't be the best WR Oregon has ever produced had he gone there.
     
  22. The Banks

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    That’s fair, despite us having elite offenses since 2007, we’ve produced jack shit at WR. Like 500 yards in the NFL. Troy Franklin’s skinny ass is by far the best we’ve ever had.
     
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  23. soulfly

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    :banderas:
     
  24. dump

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    That was a Bankz burn as that was his comp to Odunze
     
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  25. Fancy

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    our Ohio State brethren certainly seem buckeye bothered by their feathered friends being in the B1G
     
  26. herb.burdette

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    It’s kind of like last year, when folks were debating Stroud and Young, and we were telling everyone that Stroud was better.
     
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  27. LetItSoak

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    He improved a ton on drops his first year at FSU and stayed relatively steady in year 2. He has a lot of Mike Evans in his game in that he makes impossible catches look easy and easy catches look impossible at times. He was hurt a lot of 2023 but he was nearly unstoppable when healthy. Everyone remembers Keon against LSU and rightly so but Johnny had 7 catches for 104 yards and also had big games against Clemson and Miami. Back half of the year he was never 100%
     
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  28. LetItSoak

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    He got hurt mid-season and lost some of the hype. I'd be curious to see what he runs at the combine which is the only real knock on his game (lack of top end). He started returning punts this year and was shockingly good for his size
     
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  29. Bankz

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    I don’t know if that’s the comp. But he has the same problem analytical data issue that Harry had. And most prospects that are in that group turn out to be a bust.

    I would not waste a top 10 pick on Odunze. Some team will regret it. Your betting on him being an outlier.
     
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  30. The Banks

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    I’ve seen enough, Odunze to Chicago @ #9.
     
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  31. soulfly

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    What’s the problem analytical data?
     
  32. Bert Handsome

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    That's how we would know Bankz to be proven right
     
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    He's got an extremely high contested catch %. That's not something that translates to the NFL

    He's still a top 5-10 WRs just not top 10 overall
     
  34. Bankz

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    Can we all remember my hatred for Riley Ridley... and who drafted that sure fire bust? Nailed that evaluation
     
  35. The Banks

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    Can we see the contested catch % of your pre-combine top 10 WR?
     
  36. Celemo

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    He caught damn near every 50/50 ball I saw thrown to him the last 2 years
     
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  37. soulfly

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    Here’s why that’s bad for Joe Biden, er, Rome Odunze.
     
  38. dump

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    would that not be more of a Penix thing than a Odunze thing
     
  39. Bankz

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    Yeah his percentage is extremely high... odds are that can't be repeated in the nfl
     
  40. Bankz

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    I'm not high on Penix either.
     
  41. Mr. Bean

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    Since when is having ability to make congested catches not a positive?
     
  42. admiralawesome1

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    Is that like indicating he doesn’t get separation or something?
     
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  43. Illinihockey

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    It mostly means you’re over powering or out athleting the DBs. In the pros you can’t do that as often, production drops
     
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  44. Where Eagles Dare

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    I believe the amount of contested catches he has is a very high % of his overall catches, meaning he doesn't separate and bullies weaker college dbs
     
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  45. Mr. Bean

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    Or his QB couldn’t stop throwing the ball to him on terminal downs and in the red zone where coverage is significantly more aggressive

    Because he is a baller
     
  46. The Banks

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    Bankz’ final 2023 WR board:

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    Quentin Johnston - TCU (34.8% contested catch rate)
    Jaxon Smith-Njigba - Ohio State (90.0%)
    Jordan Addison - USC (22.2%)
    Cedric Tillman - Tennessee
    Kayshon Boutte - LSU
    Josh Downs - North Carolina (72.2%)
    Marvin Mims - Oklahoma
    Zay Flowers - Boston College (58.3%)
    Jalin Hyatt - Tennessee
    Parker Washington - Penn State
    Jared Wayne - Pittsburgh
    Jonathan Mingo - Ole Miss
    Jayden Reed - Michigan State
    Andrei Iosivas - Princeton
    Rakim Jarrett - Maryland
    Dontayvion Wicks - Virginia
    Rashee Rice - SMU
    Tyler Scott - Cincinnati
    Trey Palmer - Nebraska
    Donovan Greene - Wake Forrest
    Tyler Hudson - Louisville
    Xavier Hutchinson - Iowa State

    Please don’t Ctrl+f: Puka Nacua
     
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  47. Gunners

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    Zay at #8, yikes bankz
     
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  48. Bankz

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    19 WRs irl went before Nacua….
     
  49. The Banks

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    What were Polk and McMillan’s rates compared to Odunze?