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  1. TC

    TC Peter, 53, from Toxteth
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    Do your pedals have traditional plug power supplies?

    Or is it the thing where you plug the board in to power and hook each pedal to the board? I always pictured the former; just found out the latter exists looking at different ones on Amazon
     
  2. electronic

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    I use an MXR power brick. I used to daisy chain them off my tuner, but I started noticing some hum. Independent power has made a huge difference.
     
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  3. Deep dirt

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    https://www.amazon.com/Hiree-Distributor-Isolated-PedalBoard-Instruments/dp/B07S68CXJD

    Is what I got. It’s cheap but has tons of outputs. You just plug that unit into the wall and then run individual dc power male/male connections to each pedal. It came with a bunch of those as well.
    I’m sure there are better ones available but it is super affordable and has worked for me for 3-4 years.
     
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  4. glimmer

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    i love my amp sims but i’m dying for a real amp
     
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  5. TC

    TC Peter, 53, from Toxteth
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    Redav tell me about the multi fx processor you have
     
  6. Deep dirt

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    Is it $$ or loudness holding you back?
     
  7. Redav

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    It's a quad cortex. Has models of a plexi, jcm800, silver jubilee, 5150, 6505, dual rec, jp2c, a bunch of fender amps etc.

    Same for most popular cabs, pedals, effects, etc you can think of. Has a looper, can double as a daw. Pretty standard modeler. I like it although I kind of think the Axe FX may be better.
     
  8. TC

    TC Peter, 53, from Toxteth
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    I understand some of these words...

    Is this something you take out and play live with, or just something to use for home recording?

    I remember messing with a Zoom 505 pedal back in the day which is most of my MFX experience.
     
  9. Deep dirt

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    Ohhhhh jealous. Those QC are so sweet
     
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  10. Redav

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    Yeah I don't do any live playing with it. You can but it's not what I use it for. If you did you could just run the out right into the house sound and it would sound like a mic'd amp without all variables to fuck up your live sound.

    I do it for playing at home and recording random ideas.
     
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  11. glimmer

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    both? my current setup fills a lot of needs so the only amps i would be interested in carry a decent price tag and occupy a lot of valuable floor space in my cramped apartment. i want to be able to practice with that cranked amp feel as well as be able to jam/perform with full bands. hopefully soon i’ll be getting a practice spot with some friends so i’ll have the space and loudness concerns go away.

    my first bonus at work might go towards a 5150/6505 head on reverb
     
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  12. electronic

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    What do you play it through at home? Just to headphones?
     
  13. Redav

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    I've got some relatively basic Kali powered studio monitor speakers
     
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  14. electronic

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    I’ve always heard that studio monitors give a “flat” sound for mixing purposes, and I’ve never understood what that actually means.
     
  15. Redav

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    Supposed to not color the sound of what your hearing
     
  16. Deep dirt

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    Most speakers/headphones have a designed eq curve to boost bass and treble to give recorded music more “sizzle”. When doing production work it’s important to have flat reference monitors that are not colored in that way, otherwise the finished product can be way too bright or dark. Similarly for modeling amps you want a FRFR (Full Range Flat Response) speaker to be able to accurately play that modeled audio.
     
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  17. M'ark Pepperonio

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    Guitar>treble booster>fuzzes>spring reverb>delay>tuner>aby>amps

    Treble boosters are my favorite.

    I don't use the fuzzes enough to justify having as many as I do but they are fun to play with on occasion.

    Reverb is a surfy bear metal, highly recommend.

    Delay is either a memory man nano or a Dunlop echoplex
     
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  18. TC

    TC Peter, 53, from Toxteth
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    I have a Fender tube amp...prob good with the onboard reverb right? It gets super surfy.

    What's the treble booster do, like what's an example song/tone?

    Last question, what is aby
     
  19. timo

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    wah/volume, phaser, envelope filter. sometimes a compressor but usually not.

    /hippy pedals.
     
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  20. TC

    TC Peter, 53, from Toxteth
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    What's the envelope filter good for....that's the sound at the beginning of U2 "Mysterious Ways" right?
     
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  21. Deep dirt

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    It’s also known by the name “auto-wah” basically control the “wah” with your pick attack/dynamics.
     
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  22. TC

    TC Peter, 53, from Toxteth
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    So he 86ed the wah but kept a phaser and envelope filter...different ways to get at the same thing I guess
     
  23. TC

    TC Peter, 53, from Toxteth
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    Idk about you guys but I gave up on my Crybaby wah a long time ago. I could never get it to click on and off right in a live situation and it was super annoying. Then if you mess around with it you get grease all over your hand
     
  24. timo

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    lol Estimated Prophet
     
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  25. Redav

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    Edge doesn't get enough credit for the sounds he creates. That's a basic as riff in Mysterious Ways that sounds huge
     
  26. timo

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    I haven't listened to that in forever but I love his tone on that album.
     
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  27. M'ark Pepperonio

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    Reverb - yes, you're fine unless you're a huge reverb nerd chasing a very specific sound, or, if you have problems dialing in the reverb sounds you want on the amp. A standalone unit usually has more adjustments you can make. I think the unit I have sort of loosely based on the 6g15 amp top type stuff fender made before they started building reverb into amps. Surf guys supposedly will tell you it's a different sound than amp reverb, but I just use it as I have many amps without reverb.

    Treble boosters you can think of as an old school germanium overdrive, calling it a treble booster is a bit of a misnomer. They were popular in the classic rock days for pushing an already loud amp further into overdrive/distortion - giving some cut and tightening up the low end also. Brian May is probably the best known user, but a bunch of guys like them (and still do). It's a pretty unique sound, I don't like or use conventional overdrive pedals much but I'm nuts about these. They do sound best into an amp at least at the edge of breakup, I personally don't like it into a crystal clean amp. I use a lot of old PA amps and stuff which can sometimes be a little dark. The treble booster will really wake them up.



    Aby - this just switches and splits the guitar signal between two amps. I usually run multiple amps at once and can switch between the signal going to either amp or both.
     
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  28. TC

    TC Peter, 53, from Toxteth
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    Not familiar but listening now, this is a pretty sweet track. 7/8 time signature.

    I could hear this being by Pink Floyd
     
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  29. Redav

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    The stuff he does on Joshua Tree is phenomenal to me as well. I generally think really highly of him. Bullet The Blue Sky is superb guitar work imo
     
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  30. TC

    TC Peter, 53, from Toxteth
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    Gotcha, I've heard of an A/B box.

    Related...I have the Boss Stereo Chorus. Anything cool I should try to do with the two outputs?
     
  31. M'ark Pepperonio

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    Probably, but I'm a bit of a rube with effects and struggle with anything that has more than a knob or two.
     
  32. Deep dirt

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    Just try stuff man! If you have a second amp definitely try running that stereo out. You should get a wider soundstage and maybe cooler chorusy sounds
     
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  33. Redav

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    A stereo set up rules indeed
     
  34. Drew Swinney Esq

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    TC in two weeks

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  35. TC

    TC Peter, 53, from Toxteth
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    Instagram already serves me a lot of Dead content when I watch "reels."

    And that's the guitar I play haha. Roasted
     
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  36. Drew Swinney Esq

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    I know nothing of guitar gear discussion but still read all of it or will even read a rig breakdown article of someone I like. Literal “yeah, I know some of these words”.
     
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  37. Drew Swinney Esq

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    I found my favorite jam to go to over the last few months. Brewery with a stage and a weekly Sunday house band. After their set you can sign up to pick a song of your choice on stage with them, or just pick outside on the patio with whoever is there.

    Have picked a few there with some guys in a local jamgrass band that show up there some times. Into The Fog.
     
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  38. TC

    TC Peter, 53, from Toxteth
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    They charge anything?

    There's a music shop here that has a "bluegrass jam" on Friday nights but they want you to pay an entry fee. I guess they don't sell drinks at a music shop so they have to make money somehow, but still feels lame. "Pay money to be in our presence."
     
  39. Drew Swinney Esq

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    No, the venue doesn’t charge anything. None of the jams I’ve been to around here do, but the triangle has become the new home/capital of bluegrass over the last few decades. The beginner jam I was going to was in a music shop but sponsored by a local roots music nonprofit, Pinecone.

    Here there is a tip jar / QR codes on the stage to tip the band. A few guys in the house band leverage the backstage area to give lessons as well. Pretty cool setup. Bond Bros East Side in Cary.
     
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  40. RJF-GUMP

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    A guy I considered a friend borrowed my Ibanez Tube Screamer in college and never gave it back. I’m still butthurt. Use a vox wah. A lot of my favorite guitar players use no pedals.
     
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  41. TC

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    Same, but I’m currently in an indie/alternative/shoegaze band and I’m finding fx are needed to get the sound.

    I sound like Warren Haynes trying to make jangly riffs otherwise
     
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  42. RJF-GUMP

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    I love Warren and he can do some great stuff with a guitar but he also has a hard ceiling on his ability that he often hits his head on. Mule is one of my favorite bands of the modern era.
     
  43. Drew Swinney Esq

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    Are you learning some bluegrass guitar or did you get a mandolin? Or just want to show up and see what you can pick up?
     
  44. TC

    TC Peter, 53, from Toxteth
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    Pretty much the latter. I'm a music junkie and always looking to learn a new style or technique. I'm not a bluegrass nut but I like some of it and obviously admire the musicianship.

    Only own guitars and basses right now but would add a banjo, mandolin or dobro to the collection anytime I see a good deal.

    There's this guy "Slim Pickens" in Columbia who I really like. Having a hard time finding a linkable video but here's their Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/mightyslimpickensband/. If I could play guitar like that, that would be swell.
     
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  45. Drew Swinney Esq

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    Learning some fiddle tunes is typically the way to start. Salt Creek, Angeline the Baker, Old Joe Clark, Cherokee Shuffle, etc

    It can get very technical when you get into breaks and solos and allows for a lot of improvisation. You don’t have a lot of effects and stuff to modulate your sound so you have to have some variations to pull from or it gets stale. Other than that, tons of rhythm and fills as other people take breaks.

    Some of the stuff Bill Monroe was doing was simultaneously ground breaking but also hard to really hear what he was doing musically sometimes. The whole creation of bluegrass was him bringing blues to the mandolin and then finding virtuosos to help him push the boundaries. The list of bluegrass icons that started with an apprenticeship of sorts with him is jaw dropping.

    He would obviously be more of a study for a mandolin player. Studying his style is like a sub-genre of bluegrass mandolin.

    Some bluegrass guitarists to check out.

    Old to older school:
    Clarence White
    Norman Blake
    Larry Sparks
    Doc Watson
    Del McCoury
    Tony Rice
    Mark O’Conner
    David Grier

    Newer
    Billy
    Bryan Sutton
    Chris Eldrige
    Molly Tuttle
    Coby Kilby

    If you want to hear an electric take on a fiddle tune listen to Daniel Donato and Cosmic country do Arkansas Traveler.

    7:20 is Arkansas Traveler, but “Darlin’ Cory” is a traditional song recorded by Flatt and Scruggs called Dig a Hole in the Meadow. So these two are pretty much electric bluegrass.
     
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  46. TC

    TC Peter, 53, from Toxteth
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    Thanks for the tips. Most of these guys are new to me but I've heard Doc Watson. Merle Travis, Chet Atkins and Les Paul are some other pickers I've heard. I guess those last 3 are all electric guys now that I think of it
     
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  47. Deep dirt

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    Slickdeal (free) for the Positive Grid Bias FX2 guitar amp software. Today only!
    I have one of the little spark amps and really love their tones. Grabbed this for the computer. Going to be a lot like Amplitube if anyone has used that.
    https://www.positivegrid.com/products/bias-fx-2

    glimmer thought you might be interested since I believe you primarily play via model/vst but I may be misremembering
     
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  48. Stagger Lee

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    Been trying to come up with a solo for Deal by Grateful Dead. It's so fucking tough because the chord progression is deceptively complex, and it changes keys with each measure and moves fast. It's not like you can just pick a mode and noodle. I think the only way to attack is to just hit chord tones on the underlying chord as you go. I've come up with a cool go-to lick on the A-C#7 progression, but that's about it. LOL

    Tab of a lead Jerry played in a prior show: https://img1.wsimg.com/blobby/go/d1...80022f37/downloads/Deal.pdf?ver=1686839847727

    Jerry da God ripping: (first solo starts at 59:00; second solo starts at 1:01:20)
     
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    This guy does a pretty good breakdown. I’ve watched some of his other Dead videos in the past.

     
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  50. Stagger Lee

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    That is literally the only guitar teacher I've ever had. Been a subscriber to his site for a few years. Love that dude. Somehow missed that video. Thanks for sharing!!!
     
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