Detroit Tigers Thread: Cardiac Cats 2.0 (TTF)

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  1. MG2

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    Morosi is such a Detroit homer, and it's really weird that anyone like him ever gets to his level in national media.

     
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  2. MG2

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    How the hell did Shane Greene and Alex Wilson clear waivers? Seems there's no way that could have happened. They make < $2M combined and are alive. Greene has 3 years of control remaining and was really good before becoming the closer. No way he wasn't claimed by 10+ teams the second they put him through.
     
  3. MG2

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  5. Vinegar Strokes

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    So what Tigers that were on Opening Day roster this year, will be make next year.

    Most likely back
    1. Zimmermann
    2. Fulmer
    3. Norris
    4. mAhtook
    5. Cabrera
    6. Greene
    7. McCann

    50/50 back
    1. JV
    2. Kinsler
    3. Iglesias
    4. Castellanos
    5. Wilson


    Yikes, and they won't be adding free agents.
     
  6. Vinegar Strokes

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    So Daniel Norris has turned into Dontrelle Willis. Just awful. Can't even find the fucking strike zone and is getting lit up by AAA hacks
     
  7. MG2

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    It's making me very sad to see him unravel like he has since his last few weeks in the bigs. Someone this offseason needs to give him a hug and hopefully he figures something out because it looks pretty bad right now.
     
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  8. MG2

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    Nightengale being an idiot rules apply here, but if the Cubs are willing to pay all/most of Verlander's money now (and maybe the tweet is misleading in that regard), they might be willing to give up more in the offseason if they lose both Lackey and Arrieta to FA. That's my takeaway from them supposedly calling on him right now.

    Similarly, the Yankees dump Sabathia's money this winter, as well. They want to get under the tax as much as possible, but maybe they make a run at him in the winter. Same with LAD if Darvish goes elsewhere and they don't want to count on the kids. The likelihood for better offers (assuming he doesn't tank in September and stays healthy) is pretty high.

     
  9. Vinegar Strokes

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    Norris has got to be the most disappointing thing about this season. Most of us expected us to suck, but many had hoped he would build on his strong finish to 2016.

    Let's face it, if we trade JV we really have one reliable starting pitcher for next season. We are forced to start Zimmerman and rest of rotation will be AAAA players like Boyd, Farmer, or some shitty pitcher we sign on a cheap FA deal.

    This rebuild will be ugly and there aren't many guys that can help out immediately in the minors. Candelario is pretty meh, will probably give us similar production as Nick. Burrows is still 2 years away, Faedo is 3. And that's even if they make it to the show.

    Prob 5-6 years before we are relevant again, and that's with us hitting on all of our top 5 picks that we will have in upcoming drafts.
     
  10. MG2

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    Chris McCosky of DetNews saying Verlander to Astros close to being finalized.
     
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  13. DeToxRox

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    McCosky would be the one to be wrong though
     
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    Well fuck now I can't go to bed yet.
     
  15. MG2

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    There is literally not a writer in America I trust less than McCosky, tho
     
  16. DeToxRox

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    Let me help you with my best impression of you.

    "Deal won't happen. Avila sucks. McCosky sucks. Fire Dantonio."
     
  17. MG2

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    Suck our dicks #McCosky fans
     
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    Winner.
     
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    Now Morosi tweeting it but citing MCcosky
     
  21. MG2

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    No fucking way
     
  22. MG2

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    Fox station in Houston saying deal agreed upon, players money agreed. Waiting on Medicals
     
  24. MG2

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    This is insane if accurate in any way.
     
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  27. DeToxRox

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    Hahahaha
     
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  28. MG2

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    This is ridiculous
     
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  29. MG2

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    It would be the most McCosky thing ever to break the biggest story of his career, only to fuck it up and prematurely say it was nixed.
     
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    That would be hilarious.
     
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  31. Vinegar Strokes

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    That would have been good haul if we didn't have to eat any salary
     
  32. MG2

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    That's a good haul even if we're eating salary.
     
  33. Vinegar Strokes

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    I don't get it. Why would they waste their time negotiating if they knew he wouldn't accept a trade to them.still holding out hope.
     
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  34. MG2

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    An excellent question, and I'm assuming there will be some significant fallout after this if this reporting by awful sources is accurate in any way.
     
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  35. Vinegar Strokes

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    Lynn Henning already ripping Verlander on Twitter
     
  36. DeToxRox

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    Quick, everyone blame Kate.
     
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  37. MG2

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    I'm going to be legit mad if people boo Verlander after this.
     
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  38. DeToxRox

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    If you're the Tigers doesn't it make sense to shut him down for the rest of the season?

    He is clearly going to be gone this winter. Why risk it?
     
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  40. MG2

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    Because he won't want to get shut down, and they can't just shut him down without his consent.
     
  41. Vinegar Strokes

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    What you mean? Just don't pitch him rest of season? We need consent to bench players?
     
  42. DeToxRox

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    Realistically I understand that we can't do it I guess. If nothing else I would go to a six man rotation to limit him from even one more additional start.
     
  43. DeToxRox

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    JV has an option right? I wonder if Houston said they wouldn't pick it up.
     
  44. MG2

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    Maybe they can, but I could see the union getting involved there if Verlander wanted them to.

    Practically, the Tigers shutting down a franchise icon when he wants to pitch and creating that level of animosity is a really bad look for everyone involved that would lead to certain disaster on many sides.
     
  45. MG2

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    And now he basically says he doesn't know

     
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  46. Vinegar Strokes

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    I bet he still gets traded. McCoskey is a moron
     
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  47. Vinegar Strokes

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    Or Tigers PR called him and told him to say that. Who knows
     
  48. DeToxRox

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    The national guys are still quiet on all of this. McCosky is probably live tweeting his fantasy league trade deadline.
     
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  49. MG2

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    This is the part of this story that is incomprehensible to me.

    McCosky is the worst beat writer in Detroit sports history. Baseball is a sport where 2-3 people break 99 percent of the news. And this is a story where the only people reporting any of it are McCosky and a TV sports anchor in Houston (and the history of TV people being wrong about stuff like this is beyond extensive). No national reporter is saying a word that isn't citing McCosky's reporting, which suggests they have no info. Al Avila could have fallen asleep 4 hours ago and McCosky made it all up, and it wouldn't be that big of a shock.
     
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  50. DeToxRox

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    Well we will always have 1130-1135 PM
     
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